I've been thinking of trying one for a while now, but first I want to hear from others for tips on how to do a backflip. The problem is I'm only 14 and still in middle school but I am much better than all of my friends, so obviously I have no help from them. I hear that its pretty much get the balls to do the jump and look back and follow through, but I wouldn't know. So now i just need a few tips from my friends at pasr on what to do and maybe some wristgaurds and I think I'll be set

Sh*t I somehow posted it multiple times

along with those wristguards id also wear a dongbag cause i wouldnt want you to get the aids from that trick after your seriously gonna go do it

I'm going to try these in feb. when the conditions are all powder and everything, but i do backflip on land... so i know quite abit...

This should help you allot...

If the jump is big: There are a few diffrent ways you can do this, a few methods... The most used is just to throw yourself backwards, *up* not out... leading with you head... Although, for a medium size jumps, around here... another way is to *drop* one of your shoulders back... This may cause you to spin abit, but it should not totally kill you...
Don't think about underspinning, or you will... think about overspinning, Don't tuck until you KNOW you need it, and you will see, when you do tuck, how damn fast you will spin when in full tuck...

If its a smaller jump, or large mougle... I'd say go full tuck. This includes grabbing your calf's... Don't really split your legs, because it will make your skis go out more.. The biggest thing with smaller jumps, is to jump UP!!!!! NOT OUT!!!! jump up HIGH, because you need the highth for your skis to clear at 270...

Idk, i tried, its kinda hard to explain because i've never done them with skis, i'd say just don't freak out in the air... actually, next time your in the park, stand at the top of your jump (on the lip) with your skis off, and backflip with your boots on off the lip, onto the deck of the jump... just to feel a flip...


Idk if i sound like an ass from my point of view, or a pro, but i tried...


EDIT! http://www.newschoolers.com/web/content/videos/id/159960/

That MAY happen if you drop your shoulder, you'll realize its happening FAST and be able to fix it, like nip does, but on purpose...

Here is nips first back flip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFi784f1oNE

Im pretty sure he's on a snowboard not ski's so it's a little different.

word, my bad

Yeah im just looking for a few helpful tips from snowboarders who can actually land this trick

Pop off the lip, look back with your head and keep looking back. As long ask you keep trying to look back your body should follow.

I was just learning them the other day and after a few attempts i had the rotation pretty much down and then went balls out on one, under rotated by only a hair and dislocated my shoulder. I know that this may not sound helpful but i learned one lesson from it that i will follow through with the day i get back on the snow with a healed shoulder. That lesson is grab your board. if i had grabbed nothing would have happened to my shoulder other than a quick ouch. Heres some other tips, do not hesitate when setting up. as any hesitation will lead to under rotation keep your head looking back until you can see your landing. throw yourself as hard as you can into it on the first try. And most importantly, do a grab.

Straight backflips are stupid on a snowboard anyway. Go for a rodeo or over corked 5 instead, they are just as easy and are much better looking tricks.

The key to a good backflip is you just need to have the balls and fully committ. I was about 14 or 15 when i landed my first 1 and b4 i landed 1, i landed on my stomach a couple times and on my head. Look for a jump with a really lippy takeoff and about a 15 ft gap (that is necessary for your first time). most jumps are built for spinning and have a more mellow takeoff. I was up at bear this past week and the two jumps at the bottom of black bear right next to the up rail would be your best bet for ur first flip. If ur regular stance, just committ and throw ur right shoulder down and your left shoulder up really hard. If you have the opportunity try it on a trampoline to get comfortable with the rotation. Its not a hard trick it just takes balls. Wear a helmet and goodluck.

i think i remember seeing a trick tip vid for back flips on snowboardermag.com, might still be on there

I already have the flip down on the trampoline(with the board on) so now all I think i need is a good jump and the balls to do it

Nope.

Yep.

alright bruuuuhhhh a backflip is as easy as a whore, your crazy spinners your talking about are harder than that shit

and if you mean straight backflip like a wildcat thats thats rediculous, noone does wildcats anymore and i wish they would

Rodeos are just as easy as back flips and look much cooler. Instead of flipping backwards over you back sholder, you open up and flip backwards leading with your front sholder and the rest of the rotation just follows.

opening up your front shoulder would mean your doing a fs rodeo

this is a real fs rodeo not the gayflip 180's your talking about
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yBwWLcaea2c

and here is a good angle of a bs rodeo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XMBNAvvg1rM

the thing your talking about is this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k61AN4fynDM

it just aint the same duuuuude

burton71 just got raped by that beautiful post by dw

hahahahaha

No shit, you're pretty quick. Its also called an underflip, but you probably knew that. That also makes it very similar to a backflip.

That "gayflip 180" as you called is a FS rodeo. You know the basis of the trick you just posted.

And? Who said anything about BS rodeos?


What isn't the same? You hit you head or something? All I said is rodeos are just as eay to do as backflips and look much cooler. Even explained how to do them. Maybe try comprehending things you read before posting...it will prevent you from looking like a retard in the future.


Uhh...no.

Oh man, this thread got even better. If you honestly believe that a frontside rodeo is better looking than a straight up layed out backflip then I really don't know what to say to you.

Also, for the record, that youtube link of a "front rodeo" isn't really a front rodeo at all, he's just spinning off his toes and leaning into the spin. He's never really upside down at any point during that trick.

damnit man i was just trying to get soemthnig to get that kid out of his backflip 180 mode.... thankls for bustin my balls

You can say you have no ideo what style is. Straight front and back flips are lame. Have you ever even seen a snowboard video in say the last 10 years or so?

And lol and anyone that thinks a straight backflip looks better then this...

http://www.0-21.co.uk/index.php/Switch-Underflip.html

But hey you keep doing you killer straight flips and I'll stick to rodeos and underflips.

saying DH has no style is walking on forbidden ground. thou shalt die.
plus youre wrong.
and all the snowboard videos in the last 10 years are beat. do you know anything about style? who really wants to see a triple rodeo 1980 quadruple grab? not me thanks. but thats what all the videos are coming to.

anyway, have fun arguing..

Hahahaa, I cant wait to see DH's reaction. Do you know what a layed out backflip is? Your so wrong in every part of your post its not even funny.

Yeah im starting to think he doesn't know what a layed out backflip is. I think they look sick, and YES I HAVE SEEN A LAYED OUT BACKFLIP IN A VIDEO IN THE LAST 3-4 YEARS, so you can be quiet now. I think it was in Burton's The Process:3 If i remember correctly it was Mads Johnssen.

Well he apparently doesn't know what style is if he things straight backflip are so steezy. By the way how do his nuts taste?

Seriously if you have no idea what you are talking about its better not to say anything.


You don't happen to wear XXXL jeserys or nut hugger pants do you?



So wait you have seen 1 layed out backflip in 1 video in the last 3 or 4 years...LOL. Seriously get a clue.

Considering i've probably only seen maybe 5-6 videos TOPS in the last 4 years... I think you should get your head out of your ass.

So basically you admit you have no clue and are unqualified to be in the conversation. Thanks for clearing that up now move along kid.

WTF are you talking about, because i've seen 5-6 videos in the last 4 years and proved you wrong, im not qualified. And kid... HA. Take a look in the mirror...

Yes I did, what part of that is so hard to understand? I guess I'll spell it out for you since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

If laid out back flips were so awesomely steezy they would be in tons of videos and all over the place in mags and what not because that is what people would want to see. You follow so far junior? Now since you have no basis for what is in these videos since you admittedly don't watch them you have no place in the conversation. Pretty simple really.

Now if you had watched videos and had any idea what you were talking about your would see how much more prevalent rodeos and under flips in the videos. Back flips only really show up in the goof off parts like when guys are training a jump.

Thanks for that, genius. You base what is cool and what is not, off the media. Great. That just makes you an expert on everything doesn't it?

And if i saw one in the few that i've watched, chances are there are the same in other videos as well. I guess you don't understand that part of it do you?

Again, no. However, people that understand the snowboarding scene know that the videos/mags and the riders in them pretty much dictate the style. Anyone saying otherwise really has no clue what they are talking about. (i.e. you.)

You wouldn't know that because you haven't watched the videos now have you. There is an old saying about people who assume things...you should look it up.

And again, the issue isn't that you saw a single backflip or hell even two, its that there are way more over corked, rodeo, and underflip style tricks in these vids. And going back to the OP, those tricks are just as easy to learn and do as straigh flips.

Your a moron im sorry. Shows just how original snowboarding has become... Lame. Because the pros do it, blah blah blah

i learned my first backflip in my backyard on a pair of 120cm skis then i took it to the slopes... its a basic trick once u overcome the "fear" and for those who can underflip, i suggest throwin a truck driver in the underflip, everytime i go to throw a underflip "truck" i end up doing a cork 5 truck.. pretty fun

Irony is funny.

Anyway, you don't believe me? Simple example...look at how many people now sport bandanas on their face. Prior to the x-games when you know who did it hardly anyone wore them like that. Now you can't go 3 feet on the mt without seeing someone with one on.

No one used to wear XXL jerseys either, suddenly it showed up in video, (your wouldn't know since you don't watch them), and now all the little b-ballers are out on the hill.

How about wide stances? Yeah that is from the pros. Headphones...you guessed it.

You might think you are some nice original snowflake...but guess what kid, you are a product of marketing just like everyone else from the color of your jacket to the tricks that you do.

Dude no one really cares.... Keep on following those trends though, you probably look like every other clown on the hill.

And videos.... I do read magazines.. So i must know something. Only videos that are worth it in my opinion are standard, absinthe and Volcom vids. Others are just filled with the same tech rail trick OVER and OVER again.

And you keep on thinking you aren't following them...lol.

Funny, how would know if you haven't watched other vids? Especially the last two years where there have been some killer vids from other companies.

And just another point of how rodeos and underflips are more stylish then straight flips. Having been in and judged many contests before straight flips are scored lower then rodeos despite them being about the same difficulty level. You only get a few points for the switch landing of the rodeo so the extra boost in points comes from the added style of the off axis flip. But you guys keep talking like you have a clue what you are talking about cause its pretty funny lol.

Yep, im gonna go put on my bandanna, get my headphones, my XXXXL jersey, go 2 bolt my stance. And head to the hill... so i can do lame layed out flips.

Thanks for occupying my boredom though.

this argument hasn't helped me learn a back flip : (

A simple I was wrong would have been fine.

wow, you really are arrogant.

and wrong... you must think highly of your opinions.

I'm thinking about T-nutting my board so I can do a double backflip...

Sorry peter i didnt know this was you, i know better than to argue tricks with the inventor of the bs rodeo, forum for life bruhh

Wow, you should really try to follow the conversation a little better to prevent looking like such a tool in the future sparky. I mean you can't even post a vid of the proper tricks when trying to call someone out lol.

Being arrogant is ok when you are correct...like me. Being arrogant and not listening when proven wrong over and over again...like you...is funny...but also a little bit pathetic.

But hey man you keep hucking those mad steezy back flips bruh!

i just wanted to say, snowboarding is fun. bye.

Someone please tell me this kid isn't serious.