Justo8484 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, Schif said: The vert at Frost might be pushing it in terms of being able to handle a high speed detachable. What is the minimum haul rope length for a detachable lift to operate? Very valid point. I remember camelback having issues with re-spacing chairs on their high speed quad a while back, but I haven't cared to pay much attention to that place. It's the same reason I was given for why bear didn't put in a high speed quad though, for whatever that's worth. Frost just might not be big enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFskiDan Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 i dont remember hearing anything about some high speed stuff at JF, but i dont have any "insider info" i will say this, frost is tons of fun when you can be off trail. When that stuff isnt available, you find out real quick how small the place really is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, JFskiDan said: i dont remember hearing anything about some high speed stuff at JF, but i dont have any "insider info" i will say this, frost is tons of fun when you can be off trail. When that stuff isnt available, you find out real quick how small the place really is. This is so true. I still enjoy a trip there every now and again for a change of scenery, regardless of being able to get off groomers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 hours ago, toast21602 said: Maybe Blue can sell them both of the failing detachables that they have. We have enough lift maintenance and operations issues without bringing grip replacements and complex gear boxes into the mix... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Schif said: The vert at Frost might be pushing it in terms of being able to handle a high speed detachable. What is the minimum haul rope length for a detachable lift to operate? What's the vert on the quad? Sullivan's Express at camelback has a similar profile and is a high speed. ~670 ft of rise with a total length of 2700 feet. It isn't as fast as most detachables but it still hauls compared to fixed grips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprogram4 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 I never believed Bear Creek’s excuse that they don’t have enough room for a high speed. There is a very short high speed lift at the base of park city resort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, theprogram4 said: I never believed Bear Creek’s excuse that they don’t have enough room for a high speed. There is a very short high speed lift at the base of park city resort There's a couple, right? Both in beginner areas, First Time Express and another new one that went in a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, liplipliplip said: What's the vert on the quad? Sullivan's Express at camelback has a similar profile and is a high speed. ~670 ft of rise with a total length of 2700 feet. It isn't as fast as most detachables but it still hauls compared to fixed grips. You can easily get 11 runs an hour off that lift. At Blue you really can’t beat 7.5 per hour off the 6-pack if you only stick to the “front face”. 8 runs per hour on both the quad and the six pack was easily attainable before they put in the RFID gates because as you didn’t have to stop and start again to get to the lift could just glide on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, theprogram4 said: I never believed Bear Creek’s excuse that they don’t have enough room for a high speed. There is a very short high speed lift at the base of park city resort Teewinot lift at Jackson hole is a high speed detachable quad lift and only like 400 vert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: Teewinot lift at Jackson hole is a high speed detachable quad lift and only like 400 vert. Yeah, short line doesn't limit line speed. Stowe's got a gondola that spans a parking lot, little-to-no elevation gain and station-to-station is less than 1500 feet. Is a short detachable feasable? Yes. Are they expensive as hell to operate and maintain? Also yes. Edited August 28, 2020 by liplipliplip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, liplipliplip said: Yeah, short line doesn't limit line speed. Stowe's got a gondola that spans a parking lot, little-to-no elevation gain and station-to-station is less than 1500 feet. Is a short detachable feasable? Yes. Are they expensive as hell to operate and maintain? Also yes. This house in Tahoe has its own lift between the main house and beach house. It’s sort of like the inclines in Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 That's not a lift, its a funicular. @JFskiDan and @AtomicSkier have ridden in one with me after consuming some lovely beverages with a nice view. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, toast21602 said: That's not a lift, its a funicular. @JFskiDan and @AtomicSkier have ridden in one with me after consuming some lovely beverages with a nice view. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 It’s a lift.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just get the car to drop you off at the upper St. Regis if your gonna ski deer valley, why add 15 minutes to your check in time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, liplipliplip said: Just get the car to drop you off at the upper St. Regis if your gonna ski deer valley, why add 15 minutes to your check in time? What car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: What car? Assuming you’re getting a taxi / car service / Uber from Salt Lake City airport if your staying at the St. Regis deer valley (based on earlier photos in the thread). The hotel has an upper and lower lobby, the lower lobby forces you to take the “lift” to get to your room. None of which has to do with detachable suspended chairlifts and their line speeds. Nor does that house in Tahoe. Edited August 29, 2020 by liplipliplip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, liplipliplip said: Just get the car to drop you off at the upper St. Regis if your gonna ski deer valley, why add 15 minutes to your check in time? Why don't you just take a lift and ski to the St. Regis, and take it down? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride Delaware ? Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 I live outside boston but got a place near Mt. Pocono. Do love commaraderie, and good parking lotsI’m guessing it’s a family place near Mt. Pocono? There’s not really a reason to go southwest to the Pokes when you can get to VT, NH, ME, and parts of NY in the same amount of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ride Delaware ? said: I’m guessing it’s a family place near Mt. Pocono? There’s not really a reason to go southwest to the Pokes when you can get to VT, NH, ME, and parts of NY in the same amount of time... Yep. I tend to hang out around Crotched, Mt. Snow, Attitash, and Wildcat but grew up on JF and BB. Still get 5-10 days a year in the Poconos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, liplipliplip said: Yep. I tend to hang out around Crotched, Mt. Snow, Attitash, and Wildcat but grew up on JF and BB. Still get 5-10 days a year in the Poconos. You drive five hours to ski the poconos? Do you ski out west at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, Ride Delaware ? said: I’m guessing it’s a family place near Mt. Pocono? There’s not really a reason to go southwest to the Pokes when you can get to VT, NH, ME, and parts of NY in the same amount of time... Welcome back RideDE...are you ready for fall foliage season?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liplipliplip Posted August 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 18 hours ago, GrilledSteezeSandwich said: You drive five hours to ski the poconos? Do you ski out west at all? Drive five hours to see family over the holidays, skiing is typically a part of it. And if I can get out there, I will. My company has a few clients in Bozeman I try to make excuses to meet with when I can and then more excuses to extend the trip for a few days to ski Big Sky or Bridger Bowl. Other than that, nothing more than the occasional 3 day weekend to SLC or Portland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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