Seelowchamp
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i won.....all those boards sold on ebay..your just a cheap loser who just needs a board to slide on snow and thats it.....
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I can't spend $150 on a pair of snowboard pants. Just looking for something that looks good and can last more than 1 season looking good. I've got some 1 year old sessions that are falling apart at nearly every seam. I can sew and can easily squeeze another season out of them, but I'd like to get something I don't have to spend as much time keep together. I like baggy fits, and I think I want to go with mellow earth tones for the pants.
I have several pants to sell cheap....all are burton size L.....let me know if your still looking for pants. i'll post some pics of the ones
i have...
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They only sell one item as a time. If you look later it will be something else.
Danny Kass's home mountain WAS mountain creek. Lots of guys start small. But he moved to Mammoth. If you are still living the dream, and you are a local at Camelback, something is wrong with your dream. At least DHarrisburg is in Utah I believe. Thats living the dream.
kevin,
Your a 21 year old herb from new jersey. Nice dirt stash you got going in your face book page! By the looks of you,and your posts, you don't
even deserve my responses. So this is my last response to you or anyone on here for that matter, unless your going to pony up for a real board, and want a vapor.
then we'll talk....until then, Don't even bother responding to this....Your a joke and I can't even take you seriously...
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Maybe for last years Vapor, but aren't you selling last years vapor for 200 more....?
All my prices are negotiable....and that site "brociety" is wack....and the vapor that was on there for that price is LONG gone...
the only thing available on that site is a board bag.....
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Haha, I remember this guy from a long time ago. It's nice to see that he still is claiming his USASA wins like they actually mean something. Also the concept of a decent pipe rider who's local mountain is Camelback is absolutely hilarious.
Isn't your name Jer or something? Wanna tell us again how you used to ride with Keir back Shawnee?
That link kevin showed is for last years vapor, and yes that vapor i have is used, however the ones I have for 2010 are new. The ones with the Jean-Michael
Basquiat graphics.
Hey Dharrisburg: I wont tell you who I ride with , and yes Camelback is the closest Mountain to where I live. That doesn't mean that is
the only place I snowboard. I ride in So cal, Co, and Vermont as well, I also have been to camp in Les Diablerets, and Verbier in Switzerland, as
well as Mt. Hood, all in the summmer time. Since your keeping track.... But I am happy you are amused
Guess where Danny Kasses local mountain was?Do you find that concept of him being a decent pipe rider, still hillarious? DIdn't think so. Just b/c your local mountain isn't that great, doesn't
mean a good rider can't ride there, or get better somewhere else. But a know nothing toolbox like you , wouldn't understand that....
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True fuckin story right there.
Kevin,
Look I am selling 2010 vapors new for 800. If you can show me a new vapor anywhere near that price, do it. The vapors new this
year retails for 1200 bones. I think that is a pretty good deal. I am only trying to sell this to people interested in vapors, at
a discounted rate, with extras like a pair of anons or whatever. If your not into vapors then don't respond. One of my vapors also
has slightly different graphics than the production ones that you will see in shops. Both of these vapors were prepped and tuned for
use in last years us open finals by team riders and haven't been riden since, nor were they riden in the finals.
Chasing the dream, you say? I am LIVING the dream, and have been for quite some time. It's all good though, your an industry know it all. I know
the type very well. I have been on a different side of the industry for a long time, a side people like you don't know about, but think you do.
Proform.....Yeah right.....
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Shit 18 years getting free stuff from the industry and you still ride crappy boards? Get some lessons!
And I was never interested in your board, I was just making sure you don't steal any money from PASR members.
Thanks Kevin for your help. Would you like me to send you a care package for your great insight? I have new stuff
coming in on Tuesday. Let me know what size you are, or I'll just send you some global team burton stickers at the very
least. Let me know. Thanks again. I had no idea that my boards for all these years were "crappy". I guess i'll refuse
any vapors in the near future, and head to your shop so you can set me up with what I need to go bigger in the pipe and park.
Thank you!
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You are probably a better rider than me, but you definitely aren't better at selling boards.
Shop carry these boards, my shop has carried these boards for years. We sell them NEW at prices lower than you are selling your USED shit ones. Year after year after year. Your prices are a fucking joke.
I have ridden the Vapor, I have ridden the T6, I don't like the Vapor in a straight up comparison between the two and if you add in price, forget it. If your only metric is light weight, then sure the Vapor is the best. But is the only thing it has going for it.
If you metric is stiffness, then the Vapor absolutely doesn't win. The reason the Vapor is lighter is because they altered the construction of everything on top of the core. The core and base are basically the same as a T6, and then on top of the core there is less fiberglass in the Vapor. That makes it less durable and less stiff.
If you don't believe me on this, go look in the official Burton catalog. The Vapor is rated 6/10 on stiffness, the T6 8/10 and the Custom X 7/10, and the regular Custom is 5/10. So the Vapor and the Custom/Custom X are closer in stiffness than the Vapor and the T6.
Your problem is that you are correlated price with performance. For a long time when snowboard companies made boards and put a margin on them, it worked out that the most stiff ones were the most expensive becuase the materials used were more expensive. That has changed and price is connected to a number of factors, materials being one of them but pricing has a lot more to do with segmentation in the market than anything else.
I never said reps are smart/good riders whatever. Though a bunch of former ski reps work for my dad as sales reps, and I went on a ski trip with them to Canada once and they were all pretty nasty. Nor are they very smart. But they know how to sell boards or they wouldn't have their job. So when they are telling sales guys who to sell the boards to - they don't get fired for that they get promoted. Telling us who and how to sell the Vapor is exactly what Burton wants them to be doing.
If you don't think the design of the Vapor comes from the top down based on a marketing position then you are sadly mistaken. It fits the mold of a premium product aimed at the most affluent - not the best - segment of the market to a T. You find this in cars, boats, golf clubs, everything. It has a "feature" that is really noticeable, gives you that "wow" feeling when you hold it in the store. It also MAKES THE PERSON BUYING IT A BETTER RIDER. Largely the people spending the most money at the store are NOT the best riders/skiers. Ever. They're the guys going to Vail over Christmas week and maybe they'll go to Utah for a week later in the year. They buy intermediate stuff and don't blink at prices. There are a whole lot of skis aimed at this market and now that snowboards have matured, Burton is getting in on the act. Ride has been in this area for a while with their top 2 boards. Burton is expanding here as well.
The guy who comes in and tells me he is riding 2-3 times a week because he has a season pass somewhere and rides 60% park and is looking to replace his park board he snapped in half - that guy is nasty at riding and DOES blink at the price. And that guy is never buying a Vapor. He doesn't want one, and I'm not going to try and push one on him.
It doesn't make it a BAD board, it just makes it a board that most clearly aligns with intermediate riders. It is a medium flexing board. Just because some pros rock it doesn't make it an "advanced" board. It's not like an "advanced" rider can't ride an "intermediate" board, but I'm sure if you put an intermediate rider on some stiff advanced board, they are going to hate it because they won't be able to turn.
As an example, the Cartels are clearly a more advanced binding than the Custom, yet Shaun White rides on Custom bindings. That doesn't make them "advanced" bindings, they are aimed at beginner/intermediate riders, he just specifically likes them better because of the flex.
The Vapor is most clearly descendant from the P1 binding, a soft intermediate binding that has some extra features and is inordinately priced compared to the extra features. They feel soft and plus in the store and it seems worth the money, but if you try them out your boot (hell even the way you lace up) has more to do with comfort than the gel in the binding. The P1 is too heavy though so it didn't go with the Vapor and they made the C02 bindings that fit the style, but that whole category of thought is where the Vapor came from.
So are you going to buy the board or not? I haven't paid for a snowboard or snowboard gear since 1991. What do I know about pricing them? Not a whole lot. What I do know, is
that there is no other board I would rather be riding. Could I interest you in some mark viii gear or perhaps an audex coat. Make me an offer shop boy!!!
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Your hilarious and you "claim" to know what your talking about. keep going, it's really funny.
And you couldn't be more wrong with the statement in bold. Alumafly cores don't like big impacts like that.
Your knowledge is also very limited. Better hit the books.
No cores like big impacts. However if you like good pop, with stability in landings after going really big, or landing lower on a
transition then desired, the vaportech alumafly core can make up for these things and provide support to not wash out and actually ride
away. I have been riding vapors since they came out. I have been riding the 2010 vapors since last year. I also have been snowboarding since
1991. I am mainly a half pipe rider, but ride everthing. When you win nationlals, and compete at a proffessional level, then talk to me, because
I have. HIt the books? I hit the snow, and have been since your were playing in sandboxes.
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Your prices are redonkulous..and nobody is gonna purchase from somebody with 13 posts..
Redonkulous? Really? You apparently aren't aware of what these boards really cost. I understand. Its not like you see them in shops around NEPA, so I can see
why you think the prices might be high.
The forum topic was labeled "classified", "have some old gear lying around, sell it here" well i have some old gear lying around, and I was thinking of selling it on
here, since i live near camelback. I apologize for not having cheap gear to sell. I ride high end boards and apparel.
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I don't get the whole patroller/ranger whistle/yelling things at Camelback & Blue. I'm used to Mountain Creek - no matter how fast you go no one cares. The only time they are an issue is when you go out of bounds they clip tickets. I had a run in once for riding the bike trail under the gondola one year when there was actually snow, but the guy was pretty chill about it. More along the lines of - don't want people who can't do it trying it and getting hurt, than flipping out. It just seems unnecessary - if I want to get treated like these guys do I'll just do 120 in my car on 287 and get a ticket, its ridiculous.
your a herb....Nice dirt stash in your facebook front.... ditch your snowboard and stay on skis....your better suited for the two planker wanker steez...
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I almost NEVER comment negatively on people trying to sell gear, but I have to in this case.
DO NOT BUY THESE BOARDS.
1) Those prices are insane. Cut them in half and you are getting closer
2) The Vapor is an OK board, but it is what it is. Very light, but not very stiff. It is an intermediate riding board for $900 MSRP. Not to say people can't rip with it (look at Keir go), but if you gave me a choise between a T6 and a Vapor, I'd take the T6. If you gave me a choice between a Custom X and a Vapor, I'd take the Custom X. And there are about 5 or 6 other boards from other manufacturers I would take over it too.
3) This guy isn't an established member - sounds like a scam to me. I don't know why he has 3 years worth but normally if he just this years I would chalk him up as a guy from a shop who stole a pro-form and is selling the Vapor under a new name so he doesn't get caught. We had that happen at my shop, guy took a pro form and never came back and we called up Burton to cancel the order (which they did). He was far from the first person to try it.
4) When the Burton rep came to teach us about the boards, he totally trashed the Vapor. "You know the guy who comes in driving a Porsche and wearing a Rolex, this is the board for him, you can show him the weight difference and he'll know he has gotten something for his money. Everyone else will know how much he spent. But best of all it is an intermediate board so he will ride well on it." Straight from the horses mouth, you can't make this shit up. We put it up on the wall so everyone could see it when they walked in, but I never pushed it. The rep Burton rep was mostly right, we did sell 2 out of 3 to douche bags with rolexes, but one had a Lamborghini and one had a BMW. The 3rd went at our tent sale for like $350.
What shop are you affiliated with? If this board is trash, why does Kevin Pearce and other burton global team riders ride it? Your just a salesman who knows nothing about actually riding the boards you sell. Your post absolutely validates my previous sentence. Your claims about how I have these snowboards are absurd, as well as what your wrote in number 4 of your points. Whatever rep said that should be fired, and you should be out of business for believing it. I feel sorry for whoever goes into whatever shop your affiliated with, and looks for advice in what they should be purchasing. Its funny the irony in this post, your the actual scam! I am just trying to sell some high end boards cheaper than you can get in a store, no wonder your trying to discredit me. Its all good though, keep taking advantage of the people that have no clue that buy stuff from you. Thats the only people that i would imagine purchasing anything from a guy like you. get it together...if you can. and stop hating!
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Lets just get a few things straight.
1. These vapors are not "demos". I got these from Burton Team riders who are friends of mine. I wouldn't think that
they would be riding "demo" boards. And one of my vapors have graphics that you won't find, anywhere, its a prototype.
2. These weren't obtained on a "pro form". The only thing I know about "pro forms" is that snowboard instructors get them from
companys to discount purchases on new gear.
3. These boards are faster, lighter, and for the more advanced rider. If you ride pipe, and like to go big and fast, the vapors are
second to none. period. if you think a t-6 even compares to a vapor, your sorely mistaken. i don't care about what some "rep" says,
or some shop owner. YOu have to be a really good rider to utilize what the vapor has to offer. Reps to my knowledge, aren't rippers,
and certainly not the majority of shop owners.
4. The shops in this area don't offer the vapors, and if they did, they wouldn't be at the prices I am asking. I would be throwing in all
types of extras too, i.e. goggles, pants, jackets, depending on the offer & size of the person buying it.
5. NOt to toot my own horn, but when you ride at a certain level, you really can understand what this board has to offer. Now if your not going
fast, big, and hitting boxexs, rails, big transitions, then your not going to need a board like this.
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Used Burton Vapors for sale well below msrp in mint condition! the 08 i'll sell for 500, the 09 for 650, and the 2010 for 800. message me for details. i'll also throw in some stickers and maybe a jacket or pants with full price offer. Or if you want me to send pics of them.
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in stock are a white pair, brown snake skin, black, and a prototype white pair...additional lenses with purchase....
message me if your interested...
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Hey Guys. Friday the 13th of April, Camelback is hosting a rail Jam starting
at 5pm. Should be really fun.....Come out and shred or ski some rails and
boxes in april....good music, good food, good times. Don't miss the
radness...check camels website for full details....
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look.....all i heard was this kid complaining about this and that about
camelback saying "i hate this, i hate that." kid isn't even that good and
he's riding camelbacks park like he's the mesiah and he isn't that good
anyway. all he hit was the hip in rhodo and wasn't smooth at all...off balance
no real skillz at all....look i know he's young and all....but he needs to stop
flowing so much 'tude.......his dad as well......hateing won't get you anywhere
...just be happy for what is there.....or sell your weak condo and move somewhere
else......the sport dosn't need people like you anyway.....no matter where the Location.
two words......chay......ange...or .play football or something......
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Yea I love that they do that too....if your complaining about walking to far from your parking spot to the mountain. Your out of shape!!!
Its a good leg warmup in those ski boots before you hit the snow. You should be thanking CB!! You crybaby. Get there earlier if you
want a good spot! Plain and simple!
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i have the 07 vapor and its amazing. sickest board ever. i tried mounting up my o6 raven back up and it felt like a tank. sick flex with without compromising stiffness for landings. and the WFO base....lightning fast....won't ever ride anything else.
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probably swith backside 180 over a pine tree at Shawnee from Kittatiney to Lower Bushkill. also winning nationals at Mt Snow in Half pipe and overall freestyle.. and having the highest score in HP of the all the divisions combined with JJ thomas, danny kass, keir dillon, luke wynen, tyler lepore, in the field.. that was fun
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when is the pipe comp and how is they're pipe looking?
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I am availabe for half pipe lessons. I am located in the heart of monroe county. Message me for details. You'll be going bigger than all your buddies.
burton vapors for sale 159cm
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nobody on PASR could afford em...thats why they didn't sell.....not because of anything you know nothings had to say.........but you can believe that if it makes you happy....