Teleblat

I am bringing this subject up because these forums are visited by skiers & riders of all age and abilities and curious what the thoughts are from a broad cross section of people. Every area has it's own protocol for handling patrons who have entered a closed area, however the skiers responsibility code provides a clear guideline on this subject. http://www.nsc.org/mem/youth/ski/nsaa4.htm Closed areas are respected by most, a sore subject for some & for others a closed sign means little or nothing. Having visited areas across the US & Canada, there seems to be a disconnect here in PA between patrons and area management on what a closed sign means & who cares if you enter a closed area. I know a couple of fellows who entered a closed area in the Rockies. When the ski patrol detected them they were headed off before reaching a cliff area. After about 45 minutes of wallowing around in waist deep snow the escort to in bounds terrain was complete and they were exausted. A couple hours later they were in front of a majestrate assessed a fine & told that they were not welcome to return to the area. The area management threatened billing for rescue effort & pretty much made them feel like dirt. If a rescue team or engineered extraction been required, they most certainly would have been served the bill. Of course we do not have such perilous terrain here in PA. but none the less area management and Ski Patrol often close terrain for a variety of reasons. It is a fact of life. What does one entering closed terrain expect as a consequence. really, what is fair, should the mountain look the other way because we do not have lots of cliff's, or are the perils of snowmaking equipment /etc, groomers or potentially falling injured and being undetected till the next day when it may be a bit too late to provide first aid & extrication real enough to warrant controlled areas. What is your expectation: - Pay a fine - Lose your ticket - Listen to some stern words for 5 minutes - Watch a ski safety movie before returning to skiing - Area should look the other way beacause closed signs are only a suggestion Should there be different treatment for season pass holders? Should closed areas be fenced off, or are Closed signs good enough. Are PA ski areas overzealous & too controlling.

I have wanted to do tele fest at Mad River Glen, but never have enough vacation time that time of year. With the modern Tele gear an Alp skier can ski Alp turns immediately on Tele gear. The first few days there will be a few frightful moments getting used to the free heel. tele on groom is easier than Tele in Powder. In fact Tele in Pow-Pow is 5X the challenge. The best analogy for Tele turns on groom is "Walking down steps" The first thing people find is that one side's turn comes easier than the other. Off the bat it improves your Alp stanse & can clean up a bad habit you may not know you had. It is a great workout & most people find that it takes a while to last all day unless you are reverting to Alp turns. This subject probably deserves a new thread.

CURRECTAMUNDO: So, it really does not matter how old the thread is, I guess that is one of the hazards of being new to the forum. As for Danger Keep banging your head against the wall. This forum is about progress, not useless degredation. Although I have not been an active contributor to this lovely forum for long, I thought I'd check it out & see what the rub is. I took up Tele about 22 years ago on a trip to BC because it leveled the field when I was skiing with less expereinced alper's, the standing around & waiting each run & their dedication to groomed terrain was killing me. Tele made a small mountain big again & I quickly appreciated a successful Tele turn although at first they were far and few. Having lived through leather boot Tele & skinny ski's with mega camber that tossed you like a bubber band there is much to be said about the emerging techniques made possible by modern Tele gear and twin tips. I can't recall how long ago I tossed the Alpine gear & dedicated the rest of my days to tele, but it was about a dozen years. I guess I have now dated myself, so it is 1/2 tongue in cheek that I wrote the response to Ben. A little humor sprinkled in on the forum is to be enjoyed. Me thinks that some of the folks on this forum have an ax to grind or grenades to toss no matter what is said or done. Free Heel is an art to be applied & explored on the trail, or in the park. Let the games begin with Ben Mark, Will & the few who have chosen to innovate & stylize via Tele. If anybody out there is up for giving it a try, let one of us know. We may not lead you to the 1/2 pipe the first day on Tele gear, but we can get you gelling some turns in no time. That is after you take a few spills. As for Danger: I hear both McDonalds and KFC in Stroudsburg are hiring.

Ben, or should I call you Dr. Ben,,, You have definitely soaked up all available knowledge from the local spirits of Tele and are forging into unique territory. There are a few options. Get dizzy moving your head from side to side, keep looking back from one side in which case one of the turns will suffer for a while until you get the hang of the deal, or simply feel the terrain & don't turn your head. I guess there is another option, I see that a number of the Ski Patrol snowmobiles are missing a rear view morror or two. Perhaps there may be one that has not been groomed into the hill. You may be able to mount it to a shoulder brace over your head & look up. Of course with this approach right will be left & so on,,, I think. Another approach is a per