Freeski919
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Blue's status tonight:
Warning: Lights across the mountain will be shut - off at midnight tonight! Snowmakers & Groomers will work by the light of the moon (and headlamps / headlights) in an effort to conserve energy.. and be more awesome!
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do you want us to answer for you, or wait for his response?
feel free to answer.
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Go suck a fart out of a fat lady
Cute. But doesn't answer the question? Have you learned to ski in the last 4 years? Because when I saw you last, you were a hot mess of awful skiing that thought he was good because he went fast.
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GSS, I see you're still a bitch. Have you learned to ski since I left PA?
And what I think you meant to say is "I don't care, but I have a compulsion to comment on every single thing that comes across this board." Its a discussion board about Blue. This is a discussion about Blue. If you don't care, don't read and don't comment.
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Unless your an environmentalist pissed about the wasted electricity or whatever, then I can't really see what the issue is.
I'm not an environmentalist, but I'm environmentally conscious, and I don't like waste in any form. Wasted money, wasted electricity, waste isn't good. Useless waste, easily avoidable waste is mind boggling.
So I did ask Blue about it on FB, and here is their response:
that's a great question! some of these pre-season nights there are snowmakers out on the trails during the wee hours fixing leaks, running hoses and the like. Last year during the season Blue did turn the lights off a bunch of times and the groomers worked with just the lights of the cats. I believe that right now this is a hot topic and it is in a transitional phase.. soon the lights will be off more often than not.
So it sounds like somebody at Blue has realized this is a dumb idea, and is trying to change things. They're probably getting resistance from groomers and snow makers who say 'this is what we've always done'. It also sounds like they've been catching flak about it from more people than just me.
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if you have a problem with it, why don't you ask them why they do it? bitching on here won't do anything about it.
I live in Vermont now. It isn't really going to affect me one way or the other in the end. Just a bug in my rug, so to speak.
I think it is probably more of a liability issue than any thing else why they leave the lights on. Think about it. What stops some bozo from trespassing after hours to make some turns? Sure, the guy is trespassing and in the wrong but when he gets hurt that won't stop some ambulance chaser lawyer from making the case that the mountain had lights and should have had them on.
When you are making snow you definetly need those lights on. The guns on one trail alone make white out conditions, especially when it is windy. The guy making snow might have a head lamp but that won't do much for him, especially when walking on rocks along side the trail.
Now when they have the lights on the past few weeks all night long when they have no snow on the trails or any chance of making snow, then I think that is a waste unless they have the mountain crew doing maintenance prior to making snow. For what it is worth, I can see both BC and Blue from my yard. All winter long they both leave their lights on all night.
A liability issue? I'm sorry, no lawsuit would go anywhere on those merits. In fact, leaving the lights on leaves the mountain more open to liability of a lawsuit. If all the lights are on, the skier has a better case to say he thought the mountain was open. The bank doesn't leave its lights on all night so the late night bank robbers don't get hurt.
And no, when you are making snow you absolutely do NOT need the lights on. It would appear your knowledge of skiing and how ski areas work is extremely limited. If you travel anywhere North or West of Pennsylvania to ski, what you will quickly realize is that night skiing is not a universal phenomenon. Here in Vermont, there are thousands of miles of ski trails.Only a tiny fraction of those ski trails have lights strung. Maybe 1%, definitely no more than 3%. And yet, most Vermont ski areas average above 85% snowmaking coverage. Right this very second, I am absolutely certain that Stowe, Killington, Jay, Okemo, Stratton, and others are all blowing snow. It's after 10PM on a late November night, absolutely pitch black outside my window in northern VT. And I absolutely guarantee you that at not one of those resorts is a single trail light lit.
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they are taking drinking water and making snow with it for people to slide down and youre complaining about lights being on?
yup. because there is a clear reason why they are taking water and making it into snow. On the other hand, the lights have no reason to be on. What if you said you'd help out with your brother's electric bill, and you went by his house one day and realized he leaves every single light and electrical appliance on while he and his entire family are at work. wouldn't that annoy you?
I think part of my annoyance comes from living in Vermont, where we're a wee bit more conscious about things like this. If Bolton Valley left their lights on all night, in full view of Burlington and the rest of the Champlain Valley, they'd get ripped apart for being such d-bags.
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Who cares its their money.
Actually, its your money that you're giving them to waste. I'd be annoyed if I paid for a pass and realized a chunk of it was paying for keeping lights on when there's no good reason to have them on. I never paid for a pass at Blue, and didn't pay full price for anything and it still bothered me. Besides the monetary issue, is it really okay for a company to be grossly wasteful for no particular reason?
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Alright, this is something that has bothered me for a long time now, and it was just brought back to mind because my wife is down in PA right now, and she told me she saw the lights on at Blue. My question is... why? Why the fuck are the lights on now? Why are they on at 2 AM during the season?? What a massive waste of money. Some might say 'oh, its for the snowmakers and the groomers'. Bullshit. The snowmakers and groomers at most mountains work just fine in the dark. Hell, the groomers are made for it, and have massive banks of lights all over them. It just annoys me because that's a shit ton of money that the mountain turns around and has to extract from their customers in the form of lift ticket prices, food, etc.
Anybody have any clue how Blue justifies this massive waste of its customers' money?
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Snowboarding is, in fact, in decline. Does that mean it's going anywhere? No. That's not just based on snowboard sales, either. It does make sense that the proportion of ski sales would go up compared to snowboard sales. An avid skier these days has at least 4 or 5 pairs of skis in their quiver. Skis are so specialized, it makes sense. Most riders only have one or two boards. As a skier/rider, I have 5 pairs of skis, 1 board.
However, if you really want to look at the popularity of snowboarding, and figure out if its growing or shrinking, look at lessons. PSIA/AASI collects some stats from its member schools, which consist of pretty much every ski/ride school in the US. At its peak, snowboard lessons were a touch over 40% of the total lessons taught. I believe that in the early 2000's. Since then, the percentage of snowboard lessons has decreased to somewhere in the ball park of 33%. If you have fewer lessons being taught, you have fewer people learning to do it. That means fewer snowboarders. Maybe not right now, but in 10 years it'll be very noticeable.
That being said, snowboarding isn't going anywhere. It's established itself as a legitimate staple on the mountain, and won't be going the way of snowblades any time soon.
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Stowe reported 36" in 36 hours from this past storm. I will tell you from first hand witness, the reports were wrong. I was routinely blowing through 40+inches of fresh yesterday. Face shots on every turn, and absolute necessity to stay on steeps, because chest deep pow just stopped me on flats. I was pushing my 48" ski pole into drifts, and having it disappear up to my elbow. It was seriously the most epic pow day I've ever had east of the Mississippi.
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The first rule of the woods is you don't talk about the woods. The second rule of the woods is you don't talk about the woods.
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Streambed between ChinClip and Gondolier???
Quiet, you.
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After a painfully cold weekend of working at the mountain, I showed up to work on MLK day. Not enough students meant that I got to get out on the mountain to free ski. Cold at the start, but ended up being fairly nice. Wicked bluebird skies, tons of sun, and no wind. Oh, and the time has arrived to do some real skiing. Snow was really nice, not much ice, the natural hit we got last week is helping a lot. And since we got about a foot and a half of fresh snow, it meant it was time to get off the trails and into the woods. Not many fresh tracks to be found, but it's good to be in the woods again.
My trusty ski pole depth gauge in the woods. Ideal is between the Leki logos, but I'll take it.
Despite appearances, this isn't a trail. This is a streambed in an undisclosed location on Mount Mansfield. Looking down a sweet little stretch with two drops.
Looking back up the same piece of hill after shredding that gnar.
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Too much wind and too many people....still beats work...cold grilling in colchester for awhile
Yesterday was a bit slower than it has been... today should be sweet.
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Wii ski sucks, at least with the balance board. It wants you to weight your inside ski to make a turn, it's totally backwards. I always go flying off in the wrong direction.
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nice to see some snow on the east. ill be there next friday. hopefully we'll see some more terrain by then and they open northslope so they can start on tyro. sbush got a few inches as well.
They haven't even started making snow on that part of north slope, and tyro is a distant thought. They're focusing on nosedive and main street over on spruce. Then maybe they'll hit up the toll house area, if I had to guess.
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Hell, if 300" is the bottom of the list, then Jay should be on there at 355", Stowe at 333", and Smuggs at 322". This list is crap.
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Well, Stowe was on the receiving end of a very fortunate micro-climate, and got about 10 or 11 inches of fresh snow during Christmas Day, through to Boxing Day (the 26th). Since most of the vacationers from down south (read: down there where you all are) were still in transit today, the slopes were relatively uncrowded. there was some nice pow early in the day, and as it got tracked out, there was still some good stuff to be had, if one knew where to look, and was willing to take some risks to get it.
On the way up the quad... it finally looks like winter!
Hello snow... I've missed you!
Looking down Gondolier... they hadn't groomed out the snowmaking whales yet. Made for some fun features, and scared away the gapers.
It stopped snowing about 11, and the sun started to peek out at around noon.. looking up the Gondola line
Looking up at the Front Four in the sunlight. Good way to end the day.
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I don't want a large Farva, I want a goddamn liter a' cola!
Oh you're a Masshole that explains a lot. Carry on with this discussion without me.
Better a Masshole then a Pennsyldick.
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Freeski you are a Pennsylvanian
Incorrect. Born and raised in the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Which is why I didn't call myself a Vermonter.
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Those of us who live in Vermont would ask the Pennsylvanians to stop their shennanigans. You see, Vermont's shennanigans are cheeky and cute, whereas your shennanigans are pathetic and sad. Which makes them not really shennanigans at all... Evil shennanigans.
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Looks nice and not too crowded!!! Is the new quad faster? I bet it really boots you up there. I'm out of here!!
Nah, it was pretty quiet, never had to wait in any kind of lift line. The actual speed of the new quad isn't any faster, so it's the same length ride up. But there are like 50 more chairs on the line as the old one, so the uphill capacity is way more... meaning when there's a lift line, it will move much quicker, making for an overall faster turnaround.
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Yeah, there were a number of brown patches, but it was mostly in the troughs as the bumps developed. With less skier traffic during the weekdays, they should hold up, as long as the rain isn't too bad.
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In PA there's no point to cutting glades, there's never enough snow to ski them.
If you're talking about in VT, there's no point because there are already plenty cut. And if you get too froggy with it you can end up in a mess of trouble like those dudes up at Jay a couple years ago.