Went to sugar on Saturday, the conditions were great but the the people who ski down south are ignorant and inconsiderate. I live in Greensboro, NC but grew up skiing in PA and NY. The drive was only 2.5 hours for me but from the poconos its roughly 9 hours to sugar. I trail set up at sugar was lacking with only a double chair to run top to bottom so the lift line was long to say the least. They were offering early season rates and it was still $50 for basically 3 trails. The early morning was fantastic with no crowd and perfect snow. After lunch the crowds became unruly with the trails to congested to ride safely. Plus for some reason Snowboarders in the south tend to take off their board and walk down the middle of the trail. Southern skiers suck. I never thought i would say it but I miss Sno and Elk. But for the south Sugar is the best it will get.