First Grade Teacher
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Toast.....are you sure it's not a Chip-fib?
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By not spending money on improving stuff, by cutting staff and hours during off peak times, by not giving away free tickets, by not grooming twice a day, by closing lifts that aren't at or near capacity. lets see... oh yeah, by raising prices!
Wrong. You can't cut your way to prosperity. You need to spend. Have you seen their brochure? Prices have gone up a bunch for this year.
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skiers, the most whiny with the most maintenance = the lowest margin
tubers, happiest when herded like cattle = best margins
Be happy that you have tubing to subsidize skiing.
How do you increase your margins genius? Have your customers spend more money. How do you get them to spend more money? Have facilities and amenities they will spend money for. Funny thing is that I have no problem spending the money for food or a drink in a nice place. I get out of Blue ASAP when I'm done skiing! I'm not paying $5 for a hamburger or beer in a shithole.
You think the tuber is going to go for the ski area prices on food and booze? I doubt it, but time will tell. The skiers and boarders have been putting up with terrible facilities at Blue for years. I had hoped with the new owner it would get better for the longtime loyal customers. It looks like they are going to cater to the tubing and concerts instead.
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Go to ELK and fall off the cattle truck half way to the lodge!!
The bar at Elk rocks! Just another example of the lack of class Blue has. The bar at Blue looks like a UPS shipping facility with beer signs hanging up. If you fall off the Elk truck, maybe you should take up tubing and stay away from skiing.
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and ive been in worse lodges then the bottom lodge, its not all that bad.
Where? I have been in nicer pole barns! It's a lodge, not a place for milking cows. My favorite part is the 2x8 floor. There is no reason Blue can't have nice facilities. AND don't even get me started on closing 2 weeks before Camelcrap! You don't see any buildings for milking camels up there!
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Thats the big improvement? Thats really a lodge? I thought tubing was only open on weekends and nights is that "thing "going to only be open when tubing's open?
I'm not sure what the hell is going on at Blue. A few years ago they talked about a lodge at the bottom with condos. I thought, oh this will be cool. Then we don't hear another thing about it. EVER! Then out of nowhere they put up a tent for TUBING! Fucking tubing!
Blue has a new trail that they won't even open the whole thing this year. They have been working on that for YEARS! The lodge at the bottom is a complete shithole but we get a new TUBING TENT! Are you fucking kidding me?
AND now I read in the Morning Call that they want to build a permanent concert venue. Maybe try a permanent lodge first!
BUILD A FUCKING LODGE AND RESORT AMENITIES SKIERS WANT. THEY ARE YOUR MAIN CUSTOMER! IT'S NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE!
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Naw I get Ski magazine instead, what issue? I kind of want to read it.
November 08, page 40.
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It would be like wearing sunglasses that aren't polarized, they are worthless because they aren't doing what they should be doing.
Not true, polarized lenses have nothing to do with protection. Polarized lenses cut glare not UV or IR. Most glasses or goggles today have UV protection.
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Anyone read the piece in Skiing mag about the show? They bash it hard!
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This is just the first group to get less. Next it's shop employees and then Blue employees. Mark my words. Ray is dead!
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TTC6 go fuck a goat...lol
That's Chippy's job!
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It looks like you guys are correct. Below is a response from a friend in the lift industry. I would have never thought this to be true but Brad would know.
"Hi FGT,
The capacity of a FGQ and HSQ are the same...the maximum allowed being 2,400 pph. A high speed model allows resorts to provide a faster trip for skiers, while a fixed grip allows more skiers to be absorbed riding the chair. Chair spacing is limited to an interval of say 10 seconds or so (I can't tell you the exact # without looking at ANSI), hence why chairs are closer spaced on fixed models and farther on HSQs. As you can expect, resorts have theirs reasons for selecting either.
Hope this helps,
Brad"
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Keith from Park Crue got a new job in Colorado...I thought he was a nice guy..
Oh his name is Keith. I always heard him called sprocket or jockey, something like that. Not sure. I was told they kicked him out of the trailer in the parking lot and he needed a place to live. Colorado is a nice place. I hope he didn't try to drive that mulch truck out there.
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What's up with sidewinder this year? Any truth to the rumor about Park Crue getting his ass fired? Talk about a dosh.
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Think about it, assuming equal number of total people on the lift and in the queue. For example a 100 chair HSDQ has 400 people on the lift, and 600 in the line and runs at 5m/s. A 200 chair FG Quad has 800 people on the lift, and 200 in line and runs at 2.5m/s. That 200th person, is going to get to the top of the mountain just as fast as the person at the back of the 600 person line.
Sure, the HSDQ moves people up the mountain 2x as fast, but it needs to, because it's line has 400 more people in it. Likewise, the FG is twice as slow, but has twice as many people on the lift.
I love HSDQ's, especially when it's not crowded, but they don't necessarily increase uphill capacity. Maybe effective capacity, but not the actual. capacity
Your #'s make sense but you provided them. None of you have explained why a resort would spend all that extra cash for no capacity gain. I suspect one of your figures is not correct.
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Essentially, the line for a HSDQ should be longer because less people are in the air. It's just a matter of where the people are queued up (in the line or in the air).
Would you rather stand in line or sit on a chair? This is another reason the detach has to be faster. Why would a ski area want you standing in line?
Imagine the sales pitch. "Well Mrs. Green you are correct. The lift line will be longer but don't worry the chair only costs 4 times as much." It just doesn't make sense!
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Generally speaking uphill capacity is higher with a detach,
It has to be. I would love to see some real #'s from a manufacturer that compares apples to apples. I looked and can't really find one. There would be no good reason for a resort to spend the extra dollars to go detachable unless it gave them much more capacity. A detachable costs probably 4 times as much to buy, not to mention the maintenance costs.
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Higher person density on the rope for quad fixed vs. quad detachable. I think it's agreed upon the uphill capacity of fixed vs. detach is about the same.
Maybe you agree. I don't. Show me data that says uphill capacity is about the same. Detachable is at least double that of fixed.
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With the quad and six pack at Blue..8 runs an hour is possible..with the old challenge lift..5 runs in an hour was pushing it..
So a lift that you get 3 extra runs an hour has the same capacity as a fixed grip?
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but seriously fixed grip quads and high speed quads both have a capacity of around 2500 skiers/riders per hour
Then why would resorts spend the cash for detachables?
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Actually fixed grip quads have chairs spaced much closer together....and a similar uphill capacity to high speed quads..
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What next?! You probably need a smaller hat from your brain shrinking!