Old Geezer
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It's been almost two weeks and no mention of this anywhere other than here. If if were true we should at least expect to hear some of the parties to the transaction crowing about it, press releases to local news media, etc. In a small community like Susquehanna County property transactions like this simply will not stay secret.
Back in the military days this was called an unsubstantiated rumor, or the more commonly used acronym BS.
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4 hours ago, rummy said:
OP here. Even though I heard the info from a reliable source and fellow local property owner, nothing "official" has been announced. Until that time, let's consider this a rumor... OK?
Ride Delaware and Old Geezer brought up many points I whole heartedly agree with. The Kalahari purchase was talked about last season. Also discussed was the purchase of the mountain South of Elk and the land in between, effectively increasing Elks' footprint three to four times its present size.
The present owners own a huge amount of land surrounding the mountain, so I think acreage for development wouldn't be a problem with the right amount of BIG $$$. State, county and township infrastructure investment would be problematic.
If the sale is true, I think Elks' owners decided they don't need all the uncertainties and headaches of the next several years... As I said... "We'll See" .
A detail on the bolded point, at one time, 10+ years ago, I knew Elk did not own some of land on which the eastern most trails sit, the natural snow trail is one (I forget the name). They leased that land, and I suspect still do today.
There was some minor back and forth with the owning entity about leasing for gas drilling and Elk could have lost out on the deal (for the land woner gas leasing could have generated more income that leasing to Elk). That never came about and the gas well went in on two hilltops south of Elk's summit.
A disclaimer, all this could have changed over the years, my memory is hazy and this was during the time when Marcellus gas drilling was at a peak.
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It does sound far fetched. Selling now for owners of a ski resort would be selling at the bottom of the market. For buyers, buying at the bottom sounds good at first thought but there's a huge unknown for the next one, two or three seasons as to how may skiers per day will be allowed.
On the other hand, there is some untapped potential in the surrounding 'base area' (if you can even call it that) and maybe some investment entity sees potential. Adjacent to Elk's property on the north is a fairly large condominium complex which is in the unique situation of having all the property values driven way, way, way down. Did I mention a huge decrease in value? On top of the decrease in values I heard they were going to have a very large assessment per unit for something.
Elk has been mostly successful in the courts over the years to make life hard for owners in that complex, and therefore has driven down property values. By a lot. That seemed to the the intended outcome all along. Local's believe it to be a case of orneriness and vindictiveness, mosty on Elk's part but also on the condo owners part. I heard some of the die hards on the condo/HOA board sold their properties in the recent past and the eagerness to engage in a fight has subsided on the condo assoc's part.
And I also heard talk, this was two seasons ago and was third hand, of one of the farm fields adjacent to Elk's parking lot being sold for development.
In a rural community like Susquehanna County where everyone knows everybody else's business a sale of Elk would be impossible to keep under wraps for a long time.
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Link: https://www.timberlinelodge.com/coronavirus-updates
What you see when you click the Make Reservation button:
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Elk Mt Webcam at 6:00 am today, 09 May 2020.
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Even more coverage today, Saturday morning:
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Ski Sawmill for the win today:
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Octoberfest
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The Elk-cam shows real snow is besting the snow guns once again. That's twice in a week.
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Octoberfest
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54 minutes ago, Shadows said:How is that not skiable?
Owing to perspective, from age and experience. If I were like 60 years younger yes maybe it would be.
Pic below is what I saw, webcam view has now changed. Nice to see top to bottom snow of the natural variety.
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Octoberfest
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When I posted the camera was from the base boardwalk, next to the ticket window. It had a full top to bottom view.
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Octoberfest
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Friday, Nov
8, 2019. I notice Elk's webcam is online, and is showing actual, real, not-man-made snow top to bottom. Not skiable of course, looks like an inch or two in depth but still a good sign for the coming season.
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On 1/30/2019 at 3:58 PM, GrilledSteezeSandwich said:
Very cool..one day I’ll live in a hotel in ski country..but maybe I’ll make friends with people like you with cool houses to hangout in.
There's an old saying, when you own a ski house you have more friends than you ever realized.
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I worded this wrong, it came through in the entirely wrong context. Correction following in red.
Other than thawing frozen water pipes, what does one do when one is staying at their mountain hideaway cabin and the local ski hill closes and the outside air temps are below zero, warm up the car and drive to the local watering hole(s), stay in and read a book?
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Other than thawing frozen water pipes, what does one do when the local ski hill closes and the outside air temps are below zero, warm up the car and drive to the local watering hole(s), stay in and read a book?
I'm asking out of curiosity, not on account of my situation. Although I have been in the same predicament in VT/NE in the past.
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The pictures of your place are very cool to see.
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12 hours ago, C1erArt said:
Felt good being back on skis. Good summer boating the Lehigh. Done with Butte, anyone recognize this place?
Looks like Golden, CO, as viewed from one of the mountain park roads to the southwest of the town.
Maybe here or close by: https://goo.gl/YoQhNU
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One points their browser here: http://www.skipa.com/play/resort-cams
This along with with the real-time highway cameras here means you can see snow conditions very clearly: http://www.511pa.com/Cameras.aspx
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Octoberfest
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On 10/2/2018 at 7:20 PM, rummy said:Chets is always #1, the Lift has a new sign 😉 (haven't been there in years). Candlelight is under new ownership, foods good, large selection. Arlos will probably have some entertainment and good sammies etc. There's a new place near Arlos called the Speakeasy, heard it's pretty good.
The Stonebridge Inn and Restaurant is closed, looking for new ownership.The Beacon bar and grille on 171 near Union Dale may be the other you're thinking of.
Going upscale, Oliveris at Crystal lake is quite an experience but make reservations and always get the chefs' choice.
Heard from a friend the Lift Inn put up a sign with their name on it, considering they had no sign for years that is a big improvement for them.
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On 9/11/2018 at 11:40 AM, rummy said:
Season Pass prices remain the same for the third season in a row.
Early buy (before 10/8/18) Adults. $795. Old Pharts (65+) $695. See website for other prices.... www.elkskier.com
Improvements this summer:
Planted 600 trees.... Extensive new drainage on mountain.... New Pisten Bully.... New snowmaking pond..... New pump for snowmaking.... patched parking lot??... AND New Website Design...
Considering that one year they listed painting the floor boards in the picnic lodge as an annual improvement, this is pretty big. Maybe they got past re-painting the lines in the parking lot as something noteworthy.
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Octoberfest
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What are the local apres-ski watering holes/bars one could pop in after a day at Elk fest? I know Chet's, how about LIft Inn (if it hasn't fallen down yet), Candlelight, Arlo's and one more I can't remember.
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The end of a season is always a mix of feelings, you know deep down the good times are fleeting and won't last.
How many days did they go beyond the usual 100?
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Having owned ski houses (or condos) in the past I'll say a few things.
- When you have a ski house you have lots of friends, many you never knew about.
- There's about a one or two year lag between when you acquire the house and when the list starts to grow exponentially.
- sleepover is just an acronym for eat all his food and drink all his booze.
- Freeloaders and guests are two different animals. I can spot the freeloaders a mile away.
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Elk Sold
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After rereading through this my intent was not to slam Rummy himself with the bs label. The rumor however ....
This does sound like something that keeps the conversation and the drinks flowing at the local ski bar.