Finndog

No really, about 5 of us are going as long as it doesn't look like steady rain. I don't want to drive 2 hours to swim.

I was there on Sunday as well and given the past weather it was pretty good. Switchback was a lot of fun. Went down Lazy mile and was laughing my ass off, there were so many people; all ages scattered about the run. I think that the varied conditions were just killing people. It was a very wierd site. There was fresh blown, very sticky snow, piled loose granular and some nice hard-pack which was great with race skis. It was good snow for keeping your game sharp. My friend who is a level 5-6, took a nasty fall on main street, ended up off the trail into a small pine tree, He's getting x-rays today for possible broken ribs. I think by the end of the week, they should have the opportunity to get things back into shape. I am ordering my new skis this week or next (Head 77 chips) so I am hoping for some decent runs.

CORRECTION-- PRONATION problem! Sorry Atomic, I got my terms mixed up. Pronation After initial ground contact, the foot is designed to roll inward to disperse shock Over-pronators roll in too much. This causes excessive movement of the foot and lower leg. Under-pronators have feet that don't roll enough after ground contact. Overpronation Definition: Excessive inward roll of the foot after landing.The foot continues to roll when it should be pushing off. This twists the foot, shin and knee and can cause pain in all those areas. Diagnosis: Excessive wear on the inner side of your running shoes. Your shoes will tilt inward if you place them on a flat surface. Knock knees or flat feet contribute to overpronation. Remedies: Wear shoes with straight or semicurved lasts. Motion-control or stability shoes with firm, multidensity midsoles and external control features that limit pronation are best. Over-the-counter orthotics or arch supports can help, too. Overpronation causes extra stress and tightness to the muscles, so do a little extra stretching. Supination (Under-pronation) Definition: Insufficient inward roll of the foot after landing. This places extra stress on the foot and can result in iliotibial band syndrome of the knee, Achilles tendinitis, plantar fasciitis. Diagnosis: Shoes that wear on the entire outside edge, with the side of the shoe becoming overstretched. Your shoes will tilt outward when placed on a flat surface. High arches and tight Achilles tendons contribute to supination.. Remedies: Wear shoes with curved lasts to allow pronation. Lightweight trainers allow more foot motion. Check for flexibility on the inner side of the shoe. Supinators should do extra stretching for the calves, hamstrings, quads and iliotibial band.

OK, what you are decribing sounds like a supplenation problem. This can be somewhat addressed with the beds but you really need to have your canting adjusted. The goal to have the foot completely neutral in the boot. The foot should be sitting flat and level. This is what drives the ski. If the foot isnt flat, then it will tilt the ski. Try that drill tomorrow or this evening and let me know how straight or crooked your skis go. You are probably going to have to have the soles ground to get your foot neutral. This will make a big difference in your skiing; especially on the blue "powder". You may want to call ahead to where you are staying in Alta and ask around for a good fitter and make an appointment. There are some great fitters in the PC area. I'm sure Justin is a nice guy but you need someone with years of experience and training. The fitters out here just don't have the volume of work that the guys out west or up in New England have. It will be the well worth the $. You are a serious skier and will appreciate a properly fit boot. Atomic, read this article http://www.techsupportforskiers.com/tech_tip.htm

Good, then next time you are in there and they are there, you can ask them to check the fit. There is clearly a fitting issue with his boot or his ankle is deformed. My guess is it's a fitting issue and not a deformity. Why are you bitchin about good sound fitting advice?If you are saying Atomic has already seen them about this pressure then there its definitely time to look for another fitter. This is just not acceptable. All I know is that I bought a pair of boots there about 6-7 years ago, when I didn't know better and they put me in a boot nearly 2 sizes too big (I'm a 10.5 street, they put me in a 28.5 my correct size is 27). The "fitter" put me in boots based on my street shoe size. This is why I merely said when there was someone around who had a clue. You spend 600-850 on a pair of boots, plus beds, you better get them fit properly. If nothing else, they could punch out around the ankle pocket. How is it that they didn't put him in beds before?

Atomic, where are you getting the pressure on your boot? Next time your at Nestors have someone who has a clue check your boot cuff allignment and also the canting. The vast majority of skiers have some kind of canting that needs to be done. Try this. Ski on each ski for about 5-6 seconds at a time (on one ski)- on flat snow. If your foot pronates (goes out) or supplenates (turns in) your boots need to be canted. This is really important. Not sure of what your ankle issue is, but it sounds like a fitting issue. Foot beds are a must.

I skied yesterday from 9:30 to 12:00 the lines were rediculous (Christmas week- that's typical) and POWDER???? There wasn't any powder. Slushy piles of granular, yes but powder? Powder is dry, light, fine snow. Not much you can do about it though. Hi temps and plenty of rain, mixed with high traffic and that's what you get. Maybe in a couple of weeks will will get some decent s temps, the crowds will die down and conditions will improve. BTW- to ski in piled slush you carve through the piles. Keeping the ski on edge will slice right through it. You can also ski through loose powder that way too. Keep the downhill ski heavilly weighted. Also, what kind of beds did you get that they charged you $159????? I just had a pair made in Beaver Creek (resort prices) and paid $120.

The Beav was awesome! 5 days straight on a great base and two powder days to boot! I don't need a fancy lodge, just one that doesn't wreak of piss and has enough room to change into boots and such. I wouldn't mind a little better food. The entire lower lodge smells like bad french fries and onion rings. I wouldn't mind a private locker. One that I could leave stuff in and was away from crying little kids and little sh*thead-gansta-boarders. So pathetic. It always makes me laugh when you go out west and see such talented boarders and twin-tippers who are polite and cautious. Then you go to east-coast slopes and its like a badge of honor to be an ass*ole. amazing, I skied 5 days and only had one instance of a heel-side beginner not looking who then apologized. Also the vert, The main run out to the lift at Beavear Creek is Centential, its steeper than the top of razors edge and is about 1,000' its a blue. I think main street is about a green/blue out there. Oh well. Montana is beautiful. What moutain did you ski at? Almost bought at Moonlight BAsin (big Sky)

Selling Blue could only be a good thing. Get some investors in here with some cash for decent snow making and grooming, new runs, new lifts and a decent lodge. I would gladly buy a condo or two and may even look forward to skiing at Blue again. After a week at Beaver Creek, I can't bring myself to go there yet. It's just sad......... So much potential. Oh well, Going to Elk next week.

Yes, I was bashing blue, normally the grooming there sucks. Yesterday was a good day. I call them like I see them. There were a bunch of guys joking about how they wished blue would be this good all season, it;s not just me. I am skiing 5 days at Beaver Creek and Vail. Silverton? Do you mean A-Basin or Loveland?

12/07, yes, the conditions were great!!!!!! I skied all morning on some really great snow. Get your lazy asses out there and enjoy! Off to Beaver Creek!

Aren't all the runs at Shawnee crappy.........

Elk is a great hill. No question, best in the area. The lifts are very slow. Still much better than anything else.

Any bets on the first hill and first day for this area (blue, Poconos NOT ELK) I am betting Camelback, December 15th and I hope I'm wrong!

Thanks, we can all hope for the best! Blue usually opens around the the end of the 1st week in December, but I was really hoping to get out there that last week in Nov. or 1st week of Dec. WE"LL SEE

Looking to see when Elk typically opens. I was hoping to ski there around Thanksgiving or start of December beofre heading out to CO.

Which Nordica's? There are several. Dobbies, The Beasts, Beast 12,14, Speedmachines and so on,This year there are Hot Rod's. I have The Beasts and really like them. A good all around boot. I keep it on the "Stiff" setting and find them very responsive, great for carving and still some flex for bumps and crud. Remember that with boots, its the fit that matters most and I don't know of any fitter anywhere around here that is worth anything.

So the younger generation knows that the trail maps are under the wrong section and the older just knows to go where they are suposed to be, right? Every other ski resort has the trail maps uner the mountain section , I can't find one that has them under conditions. The overall look is improved but appears to be made from a template design, what's that got to do with age? It sounds like you are saying younger people don't appreciate a well-designed site. I strongly disagree, in fact, the younger user is more in tune with modern design and navigation. Statistically, younger users are more likely to bail on a site that has poor navigation. Yer point was what? Learn something and think before you post

can anyone explain why the trail maps are under "Conditions" and not under "mountain"? The sub nav bars are too small. This site looks like it was done by a high school kid for a school project. Very cookie cutter, prefab looking. Not much better other than the colors.

come on' you don't like lame colors and cheezy graphics? I do love the camera though, props there!

A bit outdated and horrible to navigate????

Oh, sorry for the delay in the post! No, I never drive it up there, 1- not going to expose on roads with grael,salt and such 2- NJ liscense plates aren't always so welcome! I drive a black Nissan Titan double cab that says "think Snow" on the back windows! We'l have to hook up this season and have a good Bimmer chat. My friend is a huge BMW freak.

We park the 330 convert for the winter! It doesn't go out in the salt and snow. You can choose from a quad cab Titan or a X3. Never had a problem getting in and out quickly.

Unless you really want to go up there early, just show up at the upper lodge early and get the pass then. It takes about 10 minutes. Get your picture taken , put your boots on and pick up the pass.

anything for the rest of us non-park folks? Just like I posted before, it's all about the park now. Anything about lifts?