Dude what is your problem???, FIRST of all they are NOT rental skis. As I said above, I got a decent pair for $60 and they were not rentals. Second as atomic said you may work for nestors but I could care less about what you have to say about equipment because whenever someone on here mentiones a certain brand you go and diss the company just like you dissed atomic. Answer me this why would someone go out and ski in spring conditons in mid march and ruin there good skis??? Thats why everyone who plans to buy used ones are using them as rock skis. Oh and I have a question for you, you claim the reason why nestors prices are high is because they cannot be sold less than a certain price unless they are on sale, I agree with you there but how comes on websites they have the same gear listed cheaper than at nestors, how comes the loft is cheaper than nestors?