RidgeRacer
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Jane's Lane is going to be a regular slope. One Park is still gonna be there. That is on the slope formerly known as Tobyhanna. The trees at the top of Toby plus all the existing glades were cleaned out and made much nicer.....but the sickest glade-work was done in the large tree area between Challenge and East Mtn. This area could be a named trail and be put on the map, but I don't know if it will be or not. In any case, it's super sweet. I can't wait to blast through there this winter.
Very very cool
Will the trail map be updated with any of this. Jane's Lane is no longer on the map. -
If Boulder opens on the 17th will they have any free skiing areas open?
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Any information if they are going to get rid of all the parks at JF?
Whatever happened to Jane's Lane? Isn't that where one park is now? And whats the deal with the Jack Frost Glades? They have it listed under what's new for this season but there is nothing new on the trail map. Anyway, it would be great to be skiing as soon as the 17th here in PA. Only a few weeks now!!
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has a really nice brochure this year. Picked it up yesterday, The new trail map is nice and they even reference Little Gap. Cool stuff.
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I've been reading the last few posts on Elk and I laugh and wonder if any of you have been there at all. Elk is a different animal. They don't want a hotel. they don't want big crowds etc. And when I see places like Bear Creek in the same sentence as Elk, I laugh, its like comparing Elk to Stowe or Killington. The it's like skiing in Vermont slogan is based on the remote country like feeling and terrain,and is not all that far fetched. again, its not even close to most in vermont. But, as far as OKemo or Stratton, the conditions there a better most of the time, the amont of challenge at Elk is just as good. Okemo is not challenging at all and either is Stratton.The resort mindset is to and always will be to provide its season pass holders and loyal skier base with the best conditions for pure skiing and riding in PA... The conditions at Elk are very good for a pennsylvania mountain and the trail layout and terrain is without question the best in NE pa. I have been skiing for over 20 yrs and have skiied every mountain in pa many times including seven springs, denton hill and blue knob. If you want hotels, massive terrain parks for kids, waterparks etc. Elk is not catered to you. And while Elk may not have the most snowmaking, the quality of snow is top notch for pa and they have over 250 snow guns and blow snow on about 4 trails a day these days. Sno mountain is really not a concern for Elk. As long a they continue to keep the quality.Elk skiers and riders don't want massive crowds and loads of people who don't really know how to ski or ride, hotels and condos etc. It's about the environment of the place and the feel of the place. You can't get that looking at scranton all day.I think Elk is more challenging than Stratton....probably not saying much though
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I picked up the Eastern PA Ski Council's Magazine called Snow Drifts at Nestors yesterday. There is a Buckmans ad in there and lists all of the demo days and customer app days. There are incredibly discounted lift ticket deals to Elk, Sno, JFBB, Camelback etc.
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JFBB's pass is much less and you get 2 free guest passes and $50 to spend anywhere on the Mt. (never mind the whole pass validation thing
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I've not made it to Elk yet, but if the snow is worse than Blue's then I'm never going
It's not
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I love it when people call the "Poconos" tacky. That lady should visit Jim Thorpe or stay at the Inn at Jim Thorpe and tell me if that's tacky. Hike or Mt Bike the Lehigh Gorge and tell me if that's tacky. Stay at Sky Top Lodge (as opposed to Caeser's) or The Shawnee Inn, The Sterling Inn, Split Rock etc. and tell me if they're tacky. Hike the Hawk Falls trail or the Boulder Field at Hickory Run and tell me that's tacky too. Ski the north face or East Mt and tell me if that's tacky. A few tacky resorts cannot speak for an entire region. If you think they're tacky and expensive before going why go there...expand your search a bit (end of rant).
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blue, cb, and sno in no particular order. even blue has better snow than elk
I'll have to respectfully disagree with Blue's snow compared to Elk.
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Winter weather is better in Allentown than at Okemo? That's like saying the waves at Sandy Hook are better than the North Shore of Hawaii because because it rains a few days. I'd sure rather be anywhere in New England from November through May than in the Poconos. This is my home and all but you're a little crazy, bro...
Okay maybe that didn't come out right.
I figured that Elk's high ranking under the "weather" category could be due to the temps at Elk maybe not being as extreme (cold wise) as they are further north. Snowfall didn't occur to me. Yeah...I'd like to have that one back. -
I think it's pretty cool that a local Mt. is being recognized among the big boys in the East, even though Ski Mags ratings have to be taken with a grain of salt. I've skied some of the finset cordouroy I've ever experienced and Elk so I can buy into the snow and grooming ratings. It's a bit warmer than New England so the weather rating doesn't surprise me. But at close to $700 for a season pass, the value rating is a bit confusing. Anyway props to Elk for cracking the top ten in these cateogries.
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From the website... http://www.jfbb.com/whats-new.asp. Here are a few of the notable improvements for 07-08...
- Jack Frost Glades
- All New Boulder PARK Lodge and Hikeable Plaza
- Fire Pits at Jack Frost & Big Boulder
Regarding the glades, the trail map doesn't show anything new yet. I'm assuming that will be updated.
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Honestly, as long as they keep Jack Frost a free skiing mountain, I'm good. They can do whatever they like at Boulder IMO. If it works, more power to them. It's just too small for me personally. For park riders it's the perfect size so why not? Yeah they should probably let freestyle skiers and snowboarders join all the comps but I can understand the Mike and Matts is a snowboard shop argument as well. I have no problem with Boulder using what they have to their advantage. Now if Jack Frost goes the same direction then I'll be looking elsewhere for a pass next season. Just my take.
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I think $530 is alot for an all days adult season pass at Booter mountain bought before November 15th..but with $49 all day tickets on the weekends..it's easy to make it worthwhile. At Jackson Hole a season pass is over $1500 and they don't even have night skiing..and I don't think they even have a butter box or tubing..lol
I think you nailed it with the night skiing. Places like Wachusett and Sundown, who also have night skiing, are up there with our pass rates. The reason prices are more here may very well be the lights. If thats the case. I'm ok with paying more. As far as the Jackson Hole pass rate. Thats just insane.
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I think I'm getting a pass to CB and to Whiteface this year. The whiteface one costs $50 more but no blackout days, and I can ride saturdays. Also there is about 2500 more feet in vert. Oh, and real back country, and a gondola, and... well you get the point. Comparing season pass prices it seems like the poconos are WAY overpriced. They charge almost twice as much for a day pass at whiteface but season pass rates are nearly the same.
Agreed, PA is so overpriced. Although that Whiteface pass is probably the best value out there. I think the Whiteface / Gore pass was the same price as my pass to JFBB
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While most of us have passes to one particular mt., we like to ski / ride at more than one area during the winter. Use this thread to post any special lift tiket discounts / deals that come up throughout the sesaon (local or otherwise) to help save another PASR some cash.
I'll start with an obvious one...
Ski at Blue Mt. on Sunday nights for $19 - Pretty nice deal IMO.
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The best of the best in Pennsylvania, All of these trails in one place would be one great mountain...
Blue Mt. - Challenge, Razors, Switchback, Main Street, Lazy Mile, Paradise
Blue Knob - Stembogen Bowl, Extrovert, Bone Yard Glades, Mine Shaft Glades
Roundtop - Gunbarrel
Elk - Tunkhannok, Lower Tuscarora, Slalom
Jack frost - East Mt.
Sno - White Lightning, Boomer, Cannonball
Camelback - Nile Mile, Pharoh, Cliffhanger
Bear Creek - Terrain Park
Denton - Avalanche
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IMO - I'm not a park person but what Boulder did last year by expanding the park scene (the Park Logic thing aside) breathed new life into the place. Prior to last season Boulder opened up late and closed real early and the place was kind of forgotten about. I think they had no choice but to give Boulder some sort of niche that could bring business back to the place. And I never saw more hype surrounding Boulder than I did last year. It's perfect for a park set up so why not. I'm not saying all park is the way to go either because yes all park would probably do more harm than good, but park oriented, like Echo Mt., may just help the place survive. For me, as long as they leave JF remain a free skiing area, I'm happy.
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signature trails ... update
Blue Mt. - Challenge, Razors, Switchback, Main Street, Lazy Mile, Paradise
Blue Knob - Stembogen Bowl
Roundtop - Gunbarrel
Elk - Tunkhannok, Lower Tuscarora
Jack frost - East Mt.
Sno - White Lightning, Boomer, Cannonball
Camelback - Nile Mile, Pharoh, Cliffhanger
Bear Creek - Terrain Park
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The race crowd is rapidly declining while the freestyle/park crowd is exponentially growing. That's where it all lies. IMHO.
Even if this is the case, I still think setting up some gates and a timer on one trail for a few hours a day likely during the weekend, having racers pay the 5 bucks or whatever and letting them have at it for a couple runs makes total sense. Blue just recently started running NASTAR I believe...not to mention all of the major resorts in the area do it as well.
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Would anyone else like to see Nastar at JFBB?? I personlly would love to as I had a great time last season with it and I plan on doing more this season but would like to do it at JF. If enough of us want it and request it is there any chance we could make it happen?
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I joined AlpineZone..I'm GrilledSteezeSandwich over there...it's a sweet site..way better than Epicski and Teton Gravity..holla
Let me just say ...AZ is AWESOME... I do lurk there often. The photos, videos and TR's are really great. That being said MY only gripe is that it seems that ski areas south of Hunter are looked down upon there and there is a notion (and this is just my opinion) that PA ski areas are seen as 400 foot verticle mole hills. For a NEW ENGLAND forum, I wouldn't expect much PA chatter but I would bet Pennsy areas like Elk, Sno, Blue Knob, and East Mt at JF would put a smile on some of those guys faces as well. Yeah we do travel north for the bigger / better stuff and I probably will again this season but areas here give me that same feeling of
as it does when I'm up in VT.
Big Boulder in 10 days
in Jack Frost & Big Boulder
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Goin down to 23 tonight and 20s for the next 3 or 4 nights. It may be a stretch but any chance they'll blow?