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Beaver Creek, CO has "Rangers" with yellow jackets, badges on their coats and radar guns to enforce speeding in the slow speed zone. (See attached photo) It won't be long before you find this at a mountain near you. It kind of reminds me of the song below: -------------------------------- I've been driving all night, my hand's wet on the wheel There's a voice in my head, that drives me heel It's my baby callin', says I need you here And it's half past four and I'm shifting gear When she's lonely and the longing gets too much She sends a cable coming in from above Don't need no phone at all We've got a thing that's called: Radar love We've got a wave in the air Radar love The radio's playing some forgotten song Brenda Lee's: "Coming on strong" The road's got me hypnotised And I'm speeding into a new sunrise When I get lonely, and I'm sure I've had enough She sends her comfort coming in from above Don't need no letters at all We've got a thing that's called: Radar love We've got a line in the sky No more speed I'm almost there Gotta keep cool, now gotta take care Last car to pass, here I go! And the line of cars drove down real slow And the radio played that forgotten song Brenda Lee's Coming on strong And the newsman sang his same old song One more Radar love has gone

Hmmmm.........Global warming???????? Na can't be..........burry your heads in the sand and keep burning fossil fuels especaially where you don't have to in electric generation. Its not the ski resorts faught there is no snow its everyones faught. ------------------------------------------------------- Ice shelf breaks off in Arctic 02/01/2007 10:38 - (SA) Montreal - An enormous ice shelf broke away from Ellesmere Island in the Canadian Arctic last year, researchers said on Friday, warning it could be another symptom of global warming. The 66-square-kilometer ice island tore away from Ellesmere, a huge strip of land in the Canadian Arctic close to Greenland. The break occurred in August 2005 and was so violent that it caused tremors that were detected by Canadian seismographs 250 kilometres away, but at the time no one was able to pinpoint what had happened. The Canadian Ice Service contacted geographer Luke Copland of the University of Ottawa, who reconstructed the chain of events by piecing together data from the seismic readings and satellite images provided by Canada and the United States. "This loss is the biggest in 25 years, but it continues the loss that occurred within the last century," Copland told AFP, saying 90%of the ice cover had been lost since the area was discovered in 1906.

It does not look good either.......... http://headlines.accuweather.com/news-stor...1&article=0 Where Is Winter?Updated: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:52 PM The very unnatural winter season continues. Just look at this snapshot of Tuesday. No big storms and no harsh cold anywhere in the Lower 48 states. Two massive winter storms did hit in December. Both of those spent most of their fury along the eastern slopes of the Rockies and through the western High Plains. To the east, people are starting to wonder what snow is. Pittsburgh had less than an inch of snow in December which borders on the ridiculous. Equally insane is the near lack of any snow at all along the I-95 Corridor from Boston to Washington. The continuing dominance of the Pacific jet stream assures that most of the nation won't experience any of the rigors of winter this week, either.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Own-part-of-the-2006-C...tem300066026731 I am leaving for CO tomorrow to order up some snow.

I just checked the Accuweather front page and it says "no cold blast in sight" That could be real bad for all ski resorts in the area, be happy they got what they got. If your looking to get some skiing/riding stop complaining and jump on a plane and head out west. The weather problem is not the resort owners faught, and opening on a shitty day like today would have just made conditions worse. Its not looking great on the East Cost for at least the next week and half.

I would say people should switch to alternative energy sources and put less pollution into the air/water and ground when possible. We need to conserve what we can for future generations and if there are alternate power sources that can power chair lifts to snow making equipment, heat lodges and surrounding houses, the government should cut some special deals on windmills, solar, biofuels, etc. I don't believe there is any way we can cut oil/coal/gas for everything but conserving on some other things leaves more of that stuff to go around for the future. If anything it will help cut some dependence on the foreign oil that seems to cause a lot of problems in our world. I remember reading last year that some company wanted to put a wind mill farm off New England and it would be powerful enough to power a city. Tree huggers complained that about 50-100 or so migratory birds may be killed slamming into the windmills each year. So last I heard the plan was scrapped. More birds are probably hit on the highways then by the wind mills. The problem is that we should have been doing this stuff all along since the 70s fuel crisis. Just because gas and fuel oil gets cheap it does not mean stop conserving. I guess time will tell if its our emissions causing global warming or some other source. All I know in the late 70s when I started skiing there seemed to be a lot more snow around, compared to when I snowboarded yesterday.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2006/nov/19...global_warming/

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12052006/enter...ris_bunting.htm I'M MELTING! By CHRIS BUNTING December 5, 2006 -- WITH even the Governator using biofuel in his Hummer (er, promising to, anyway) and King of all Brainiacs Stephen Hawking warning us to flee Earth and colonize space (or else!), global warming is becoming harder and harder to deny - even for those who somehow couldn't bring themselves to accept it in their hearts before. And while its victims list is well documented - from happy-footed penguins to Central American frogs - global warming has also caused plenty of grief for the less beady-eyed, and more goggled:skiers. Just look at the Alps - they've already lost at least half of their ice volume since the 1850s, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has reported. Lost annual tourism dollars are expected to be in the billions for Swiss resorts alone. "For some reason, it is Europe that may be suffering more and it may have to do with the Gulf Stream being affected out in the northern and eastern Atlantic, which could have something to do with global warming," says Jim Roemer, meteorologist and president of Bestskiweather.com. "The last thing we want to see is currents changing because it will really throw our climate out of whack." Ironically, changing currents have been a good thing out west: snowfall is increasing in places like Jackson Hole, Tahoe and Utah, because global warming means more evaporation and, thus, more moisture in the atmosphere. Perhaps it's down to the fact that operators are among the first to feel the pinch that the ski industry is also at the forefront when it comes to combatting climate change. The National Ski Areas Association (NSAA) has started integrating green power into its member resorts as part of its Sustainable Slopes and Keep Winter Cool initiative. Such NSAA resorts operating on 288 million kilowatts or more of green energy (avoiding the production of 350 million pounds of CO2 - the amount generated by 138,000 roundtrip flights between New York and San Francisco) include Mount Sunapee in New Hampshire, Middlebury and Okemo in Vermont, and Maine's Shawnee Peak. Burke Mountain, Vt., has likewise jumped on the green wagon. "We use bio-diesel fuel in our grooming machines, wood pellets in our lodge's heating stoves, working closely with Efficiency Vermont for guidance on how to be more productive with the energy we use," marketing director David Gawkin explained. Also, Jiminy Peak in Massachusetts is finishing up construction of its wind turbine that will power the resort - the first of its kind in the Northeast. But the question remains: Can one ski area here and there "going green" make up for an entire region suffering from hot flashes? The Environmental Advocates of New York (an affiliate of the National Wildlife Federation) recently released a study warning that average temperatures in the Northeast by the end of the century could be as much as 9.8 degrees warmer in winter. That's really far off. What about now? Eric Friedman, marketing director for Mad River Glen, in Vermont, put it succinctly: "Last year sucked." Unlike most every other ski area in the Northeast, only 10 percent of Mad River's snow is man-made (they only have two snow guns). "So when it snows, they come in droves; when it doesn't, they don't." On the other end of the spectrum is Loon Mountain, New Hampshire, where differences in snow conditions over the last decade are less noticeable. "We have snowmaking on 99 percent of our trails, so we do not rely on natural snowfall to open," says Stacy Lopes, marketing manager. But man-made snow - which Roemer says is sufficiently good for families with kids who "aren't extreme skiers or powder hounds" - is expensive, as some smaller resorts like Plattekill Mountain, in upstate's Delaware County have discovered. "Adding a new pump was a large chunk to chew, but had to be done - it's hard to say that global warming hasn't had an effect," Danielle Vajtay, Plattekill's GM, told The Post. Home -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW YORK POST is a registered trademark of NYP Holdings, Inc. NYPOST.COM, NYPOSTONLINE.COM, and NEWYORKPOST.COM are trademarks of NYP Holdings, Inc. Copyright 2006 NYP Holdings, Inc. All rights reserved.

Started a new topic because this effects the entire snow sports industry. If something is not done we will be out of business world wide. Climate change 'could kill of Alpine skiing' - OECD (published on 15-December-2006) URL: http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=12415 Climate change could put an end to the skiing industry in Europe, the OECD warned this week as ski stations failed to open while France saw World Cup ski races cancelled because of a lack of snow. Skiing holidays in France may become a thing of the past Although a gust of colder air has allowed the women's World Cup races to be rescheduled for next week, the problem of snow scarcity is here to stay, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development warned. Germany could be hardest hit as temperatures rise but France, Austria and Switzerland could all suffer significant economic losses if the annual 60-80 million tourists flooding in to skiing resorts are held back by lack of snow. "There will also be "winners" and "losers", both in terms of regions - for example Alpes Maritimes, Steiermark/Styria, and Friuli-Venezia-Giulia are considerably more vulnerable than Grisons, Valais, and Savoie - and in terms of the ski areas themselves, with low-lying ski areas being considerably more vulnerable than areas with high altitudinal range," the OECD said. The Alps are particularly sensitive to climate change and have experienced a warming equaling roughly three times the global average so far, analysis from the OECD has shown, with the years 1994, 2000, 2002 and 2003 the warmest in the last 500 years. Climate models forecast a grim picture of receding glaciers and snow cover for the coming decades. Although 90%, or 599 out of 666 medium to large Alpine ski areas, are still getting enough snow the remaining 10% are already experiencing shortages. A 1 degree temperature increase would bring the number of operational ski resorts down to 500 out of 666, and a 2 degree increase down to 400. This week's slightly lower temperatures have allowed more ski resorts to open - albeit with the help of artificial snow, which consumer a lot of water, energy as well as impacting negatively on the alpine environment. But making snow will become more expensive and eventually impossible as temperature rise further, the OECD warned. Further information is available on the OECD website. Goska Romanowicz

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/20...es_x.htm?csp=34 Global warming threatens Alpine ski resorts Updated 12/13/2006 6:47 PM ET PARIS (AP)

http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/26/global_warming

Today's conditions 121/15 were more of the same. A lot of brown spots starting to show. It looks like it will get cold enough to make snow on sunday so that is a plus.

Yes the movie is kind of boring but it contains good information. When was the last time Killington opened in October like they used to? In the past 10 years or so most resorts on the east coast have been opening later and later. Then some resorts in Europe are closed for good. The world is in a warming period and its from us burning fossil fuels and its only going to get worse. Its something to thing about and maybe time to put pressure on resorts and government to help ski resorts go with alternative sources of power for their eletric. Maybe the resorts can buy cleaner burning snowmobiles and other equipment. Skiiers could buy more environment friendly cars/trucks. Little changes by everyone can mean a diffrence world wide. It takes a lot of eletric to make snow, what if a resort installed windmills on top of their mountains, enough to power their lifts, lodges and part of their snowmaking pumps. In the summer time the resort could sell their power back to the power company when demand is high for air conditioning in homes and the resort is closed or using a lot less power. How many tons of CO could be saved each year?

Got here yesterday did not ride because of heavy rain. Rode today and it was pretty slick out until the sun came out to soften stuff up. Some thin spots here and there but not bad yet. Not sure how all that is going to hold up come the weekend with major pressure on the mountain and it being too warm to make snow. I hear a lot of people around the mountain talking about global warming. I remember years ago almost the entire resort being open by now and each year it seems to be getting worse. I don't know why the ski industry world wide with millions of skiiers and snowboarders does not push the issue of the environment and gloabal warming. Resorts have closed in Europe and I am afraid we are next unless something is done. For those of you who did'nt check out "An Inconvenient Truth" now on DVD no matter what you think of Al Gore, ya still need to check out the information in that movie. We really need to save the environment to save the future of our sport.

They got 150 +/- days to figure out a new play list

The play list for the 2005-2006 season is below, hopefully it will change for 2006-2007 Belive it or not these songs were heard in Camelbacks terrain park in 2005/06: "It's Raining Men" - The Weather Girls "YMCA" - Village People "Macho Man" - Village People "In The Navy" - Village People You Dropped A Bomb On Me" - The Gap Band "Turn The Beat Around" - Gloria Estefan "Funky Town" - Flashback Retro Allstar Singers "Funky Town" - Sonrisas "You're So Vain" - Carly Simon "Play That Funky Music, White Boy" - Wild Cherry "I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor "Funkytown" - Lipps, Inc. "Hot Stuff" - Donna Summer "The Rubberband Man" - The Spinners "Car Wash (Single Version)" - Rose Royce "I Love The Nightlife (Disco 'Round)" - Alicia Bridges "It's Raining Men" - The Weather Girls "Disco Inferno " - The Trammps "Boogie Fever" - The Sylvers "RUMORS" - Club Nouveau "Let's Groove" - Earth, Wind & Fire "(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty (Single/LP Version)" - KC & The Sunshine Band "Last Dance" - Donna Summer "Hot Stuff" - Donna Summer "Bad Girls" - Donna Summer "I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor "September" - Earth, Wind & Fire "I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor "Le Freak" - Chic "Good Times" - Chic "I Want Your Love" - Chic "Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)" - Chic "Super Freak (Part 1)" - Rick James "He's The Greatest Dancer" - Sister Sledge "I Will Survive - (remix)" - Gloria Gaynor "Funkytown" - Lipps, Inc. "I Will Survive - (remix)" - Gloria Gaynor "I'm Coming Out" - Diana Ross "Do Your Dance" - Rose Royce "Boogie Fever" - The Sylvers "I'm Gonna Wash That Man Right Outta My Hair" - The Weather Girls "Le Freak" - Chic "September" - Earth, Wind & Fire "Upside Down" - Diana Ross "The Groove Line (Disco Version)" - Heatwave "Boogie Fever" - The Sylvers "Disco Inferno " - The Trammps "We Are Family" - Sister Sledge "The Rubberband Man" - The Spinners "The Hustle (Original Mix)" - Van McCoy "Play That Funky Music" - Wild Cherry "Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel" - Tavares "Every 1's A Winner" - Hot Chocolate

Snowbird, Snowbasin and Canyons are great places.

Stay inbounds and try and find someone to ski or ride with while out there. Don't even think of trying back country stuff alone. Check out Snowbasin while you are there.

If I were you guys I would start on an off season cardio and weight training program. Look up things that are snowboard/skiing specific plus general fitness. Hit the gym, bike and run.

I don't think CB made that C-Box, it was bought along with some others. So Beaver Creek must use the same company. The rumors have it there is a lot going on for next year. For the park people I think this is going to be the year things happen. (Finally) I am not a park person but I hear enough complaints about CB's parks. The past year complaints were down about the Rhodo Park because of the wall ride, new boxes and jump set ups. Still a long way to go but with the trees cut down that shows things are going to happen. Hang in there.

I was there for the last 20 min or so and it seemed pretty cool. Hopefully they make it bigger and better for next year.

Its good I am going to Salt Lake City next week to get some skiing/Boarding in before the end of season. The east coast season is on its way out quick.

Just got an e-mail from someone at Camelback-- Night skiing will end on Saturday March 11th. NO SUNDAY NIGHT SKIING. WE WILL BE OPEN FROM 8AM TO 5PM UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. Hopefully I can get up there for a few days before the official close.

Plus if you look at the topographical maps. Alpine's slope faces away from Camelback and Shawnee's faces toward Camelback. http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=455...001&datum=nad83 http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=41.03806&lon=-75.07861 So that pretty much solves it, that it is Shawnee.