PeterC0523 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Has anyone ever used epoxy to seal up their board? At Elk, we ended up hitting a rock or something and banged up my board a little. About a 2 inch length of my topsheet by the tip was lifted up (lifted area is about 1/4 inch deep) and was filled with dirt/mud. I scrapped out the dirt/mud and ordered a bunch of stuff from Tognar. I got some of the high grade (slow curing) epoxy, an oyster knife, a syringe (to inject the expoy), and a C-clamp. Should I clean out that damaged area further? If so, what should I use? Anyone have an general tips on epoxy use? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Has anyone ever used epoxy to seal up their board? At Elk, we ended up hitting a rock or something and banged up my board a little. About a 2 inch length of my topsheet by the tip was lifted up (lifted area is about 1/4 inch deep) and was filled with dirt/mud. I scrapped out the dirt/mud and ordered a bunch of stuff from Tognar. I got some of the high grade (slow curing) epoxy, an oyster knife, a syringe (to inject the expoy), and a C-clamp. Should I clean out that damaged area further? If so, what should I use? Anyone have an general tips on epoxy use? Thanks! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ohh, this is tricky buisness. First I would email/call the manufacturer and see if they will repair/replace it. Espeacially if it doesn't look like you obviously hit a rock (aka abrasions). If the top sheet is seperating thats generally a manufacturing defect, however if you split the board open that is another matter. As far as repairing it yourself, if you have a wood core, I would just replace the board, because any moisture that gets in there will make the board swell and get super heavy, flimsy, not peform correctly etc. If you have a sythnthetic core I would say clean as best as you can, but still dont use anything wet as you don't want to seel mosture in. Epoxy is probobly your best bet, but you still may run into performance problems. You should really try to get it fixed/replaced by the manufacturer, or replace it yourself though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidude Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I had that problem with an edge after a certain someone (who will remain nameless) was on my slalom skis and hit a rock. The edge started to delaminate....I brought it to the shop and they fixed it up for me. Not sure what that has to do with your question, but it may be the best to just bring it to a shop and see if they can do it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick malozzi Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 yes contact the manufacturer of the board first. ud be shocked at what they will fix free of charge. if u have a wood core u better seal that up REALLY GOOD cause as stated above moisture will just destroy it. (happened to me so trust me). Id also go to a shop and see what they have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 yes wood cores and moisture DO NOT mix well......that thing will break, my friend's broke in half while he was on a rail and nutted himself...talk about bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC0523 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 (edited) Thanks for all the input! I contact Lib Tech and they informed me that they the topsheet peeling off is a defect. I could send it in and they would fix it, but they won't replace it with a new one. Down side is that it'll take a while and I'd have to take care of ths shipping costs myself. The online store I ordered it from said that they'd do the same, but also wouldn't cover shipping. So I think I'm just gonna give the epoxy a try. Read up on it a little online, wish me luck! Does anyone know if hot waxing later down the line (after the epoxy has fully dried and been sanded down) would melt the glue at all? Should I be cautious about hot waxing over the epoxied part? Edited January 6, 2005 by PeterC0523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidude Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I would think you would burn your base before you would melt the epoxy. So I wouldn't worry too much about it, just keep the iron moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 If it were me and my equipment, I would send it out. I love being at the mountain, and even a day not there sux, but imagine how many more days you will miss if you screw up your board more permanately. I would imagine any home done repair void whatever warrenty they have. Additionally if they do it, it will be done right. They may use epoxy, but I would leave it up to them. It can't be THAT expensive to ship. It must certainly be cheaper than replacing your board. Just my opinion though. As ski dude said, the base will burn before your epoxy will let up. That stuff is REALLY strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC0523 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well... finished epoxying a few hours ago. Everything went fine, just gotta let it cure for 24 hrs and sand it down. As I was filling the one lifted area, I noticed a couple of other areas where there's a SLIGHT lift/dink. Think it'll be a bad idea to put a thin line of epoxy right under the topsheet along the sides as a preventative measure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well... finished epoxying a few hours ago. Everything went fine, just gotta let it cure for 24 hrs and sand it down. As I was filling the one lifted area, I noticed a couple of other areas where there's a SLIGHT lift/dink. Think it'll be a bad idea to put a thin line of epoxy right under the topsheet along the sides as a preventative measure? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If its not gunna hurt the big problem it wont hurt the little problems. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicSkier Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well... finished epoxying a few hours ago. Everything went fine, just gotta let it cure for 24 hrs and sand it down. As I was filling the one lifted area, I noticed a couple of other areas where there's a SLIGHT lift/dink. Think it'll be a bad idea to put a thin line of epoxy right under the topsheet along the sides as a preventative measure? wait, is this on your base, or the top of your board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC0523 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 If it were me and my equipment, I would send it out. It can't be THAT expensive to ship. It must certainly be cheaper than replacing your board. Just my opinion though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Since I threw out the box I got the board in, I'd have to buy a new box and pay for shipping both ways. It would probably end up being around $50. Since I already ordered all the tools necessary to do it myself (which ended up costing around $40 including S/H) I decided to take care of it on my own. Not to mention, I'd rather learn how to do it now and be able to apply it in the future than have to rely on other people. I'm kinda the same way with my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 wait, is this on your base, or the top of your board? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He said right under the top sheet, so the top, where people probobly ran over his board in line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC0523 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 wait, is this on your base, or the top of your board? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is right along the sides of my board. I was thinking about putting a thin line of epoxy right where the topsheet and the rest of the board meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicSkier Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 He said right under the top sheet, so the top, where people probobly ran over his board in line my friend raan over my skis, and some of the red atomic top shoot is slit open, it's still ok though, i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I give people real nasty looks the first time they touch my board in line (even though its real beat up as it is). The second time a verbal warning. I haven't reached the third time yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterC0523 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I give people real nasty looks the first time they touch my board in line (even though its real beat up as it is). The second time a verbal warning. I haven't reached the third time yet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Touch your board as in any contact, or going over (on top) of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Touch your board as in any contact, or going over (on top) of it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any contact. If they run over, I push them as I'm "falling" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidude Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 People get this real nasty look from me if they run over my skis....Haven't ever had to go to warning number 2 yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro_boarder Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 The other day I saw my soccer coach at CB. This kid I was riding with ran over the back of his skis. You should have seen the look he got. It was like "I should kill you now." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 The other day I saw my soccer coach at CB. This kid I was riding with ran over the back of his skis. You should have seen the look he got. It was like "I should kill you now." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As it should be. Equipment is to expensive to have complete strangers, or a friend of a member of the team you coach mess it up because of carelessness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro_boarder Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Exactly. I would do the same thing. Another story about stupid people. Aperantly some idiot on a snowboard wanted to get out of the lift line so he kind of walks/rides over a bunch of peoples skis. I wanted to see them just knock him out. People are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Exactly. I would do the same thing. Another story about stupid people. Aperantly some idiot on a snowboard wanted to get out of the lift line so he kind of walks/rides over a bunch of peoples skis. I wanted to see them just knock him out. People are stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> These are the people who need their ticket clipped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomniac Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I doubt it would cost $50 dollars to send your board. It cost me 8 dollars to send skis 2-3day shipping. And you wouldn't have had to buy a box, just ask around, and modify some other boxes. And If my skis were starting to delam I definatley wouldve sent them in. But I'm sure your home repair will last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romemadman Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 yea i get so pissed if i fel ppl even touch my board b/c my top is so eaisly sccratches and i hacve a huge scrape but the black is still there bubt scratched and i was so pissed when i saw these gashes down past the topsheet of like paint to the top of the next layer ad i want to fix it bit i don't know how this prob happened b/c when i carve u in vt i lean so much on the easier turn when i am bored thatb my elbows hit the snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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