TylerDurden Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Bear Creek should invest in one of these air bags to further promote progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 dont they have one of those at Woodward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not sure, I was just browsing YouTube and saw this and thought it would be the greatest thing ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibHonk Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Your on the inside. Why don't you just tell them to buy one because this would be thee best thing ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) I know what's going on. I have no real association with the mountain whatsoever. Other than I ride there. Edited January 15, 2009 by TylerDurden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobert540 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 That is pretty cool, but I couldn't imagine the insurance costs to have that thing on the mountain open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoHigh Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Would skiers be able to use them with poles? I would imagine that if skiers were to use this with poles, then the thing would pop, and it would be a big deflated money bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 They have an airbag at woodward. It's carpet though and not that big. Burns the fuck out of your skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saurus Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 poles would be the least of the worries compaired to the pressure you put on it when you land with your ski's/board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 They are for nooobs... Camp of Champions had one last summer. It was a failure. You get wrecked in wierd ways on big jumps. Apparently they twist you up in uh..... anyways thats second hand information. Windham has one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Maybe its just me but its pretty obvious why this is an awful idea. When you are jumping most of your momentum is forward, not up and down. The bag is designed to soften the fall for people going downward. Thats why foam pits work for dirt bikes doing back flips, the ramp is much stepper and they aren't really moving forward compared to how high they are going. The only place this would be useful is on top of a quarter pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It would still be awesome regardless of the explanation above. Even though it may contort you awkwardly when someone lands on it, it's not as bad as landing on solid snow. The benefits outweigh the costs. I would, and probably many other people agree that they would feel more comfortable jumping into/onto this trying a trick they have never done, then just trying it off a hard pack landing. This would be prime for our conditions taking into consideration that it never snows here and tricks can't be hucked into powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It would still be awesome regardless of the explanation above. Even though it may contort you awkwardly when someone lands on it, it's not as bad as landing on solid snow. The benefits outweigh the costs. I would, and probably many other people agree that they would feel more comfortable jumping into/onto this trying a trick they have never done, then just trying it off a hard pack landing. This would be prime for our conditions taking into consideration that it never snows here and tricks can't be hucked into powder. I'd take the foam pit over an airbag. You just can't put enough pressure in there to keep it hard enough to break your fall in any meaningful way, all it will do is grab your board and give you the "oh shit I caught my nose in powder on the landing" feeling, except without the powder to break your fall when you do eventually hit the hard snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 ya.. i think i agree... to much whiplash and brush burn... id take a foam pit over it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I would rather take whiplash and friction burns then broken bones and concussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I would rather take whiplash and friction burns then broken bones and concussions. I think you are signficantly more likely to suffer broken bones and concussions on the bag than without. Remember its not the fall that hurts, its the sudden stop at the end. When you fall hard on an icy deck, all the vertical energy is imparted onto your body, but none of the horizontal is. That is about 50% of the energy since you are hitting the jump with a lot of horizontal speed and some of it gets converted to vertical energy, but certaintly not much more than half. Thats why when you come up short you usually bounce onto the landing and tumble down it, its not like you land on the icy deck and stop. With the bag, the vertical energy is going to be minimized a bit, but now you are stopping your horizontal progress too, so you add a whole new set of energy that your body has to absorb. The acceleration is what causes the forces that break bones and cause concussions. I'll take one predictable direction of acceleration over getting hit from all over. Now if you are aiming for the center of the bag off a really steep jump, that is a different story. But putting a big air bag over the deck of the jump and aiming for the actual snow landing, and hoping the bag will help you if you come up short, is a bad idea. All it is going to do is tangle up your legs as your chest keeps going and cause you to be flipping as you go forward into hte landing, no thanks. Step overs a lot safer, and at least a foam pit entirely contains you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton71 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 (edited) I think you are signficantly more likely to suffer broken bones and concussions on the bag than without. Not so much. Watch this and you'll see that these work very well and you can see how they would protect you and not cause any significant injury. Edited January 17, 2009 by burton71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 that video just made the airbag look sick! bear should def look into getting one of these it would probly bring a large crowd of people looking to progress on their jump skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saurus Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 hahaha more likely to get hurt landing on the airbag? thats like saying your more likely to get hiv while wearing a condom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blong131 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 those all ddo it wrong....check this one out <object width="400" height="225"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2302056&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1"'>http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2302056&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2302056&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://vimeo.com/">Katal Innovations : Rethinking Safety</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user956353">Mitch Budreski</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>. whoops...." just click this link RIDE AWAY AIR BAGGGGG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blong131 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 watch the video i posted....where you can in fact ski away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 those all ddo it wrong....check this one outRIDE AWAY AIR BAGGGGG This is way smarter than the first one, I would totally hit a jump like that as opposed just a big bag you are supposed to land and stop in like the first video in this thread. This one you keep your momentum going all the way through and it just breaks your fall a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollyskeez Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 that second one is legit. guy gets WRECKED at 1:00. the second one is better because you can actually know if you would have landed the trick rather than just getting the rotation down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You people are dumb the whole point of of an airbag is to allow one to build confidence and to get over first trick jitters and learn how to get it down. It's not about rolling away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton71 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You people are dumb the whole point of of an airbag is to allow one to build confidence and to get over first trick jitters and learn how to get it down. It's not about rolling away. Yep. Basically a foam pit for the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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