jordan Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) does this trail map look strange to anyone else? is this recent, or did i miss it? looks like they added a new trail beyond floyd's maybe, its not labled, but definately on the map. that is some sick terrain out past floyds, nice and steep, i did some tree skiing back maybe a football field's distance from floyds (past risk it) back in 2002 when there was enough snow to do that maybe its just a misprint, and its always been there and i just never realized, but i dont remember that http://www.jfbb.com/winter-jf-trail-maps.aspx Edited September 22, 2006 by jordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 not really? I remember like two or three years ago there was a couple "powder" days at the east mountain, back when we had the house in Blakeslee....was pretty fun, tree runs were actually doable This season sucked though, I don't think there was one "powder day" or enough natural snow for a tree run. I was only up at JFBB like 4 or 5 times last season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddyk Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) does this trail map look strange to anyone else? is this recent, or did i miss it?looks like they added a new trail beyond floyd's maybe, its not labled, but definately on the map. that is some sick terrain out past floyds, nice and steep, i did some tree skiing back maybe a football field's distance from floyds (past risk it) back in 2002 when there was enough snow to do that maybe its just a misprint, and its always been there and i just never realized, but i dont remember that http://www.jfbb.com/winter-jf-trail-maps.aspx I never took notice to that. I'll try to find an old map to look at Edited September 22, 2006 by bigdaddyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddyk Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) I haven't figured out how to put pics in this section, so I put one of the map with the "trail" that appears to be new highlighted in red, in the picture section. This "trail" could be "risk it," because that's where that tree skiing area is. Link to map: http://www.paskiandride.com/forums/index.p...ost&id=1165 Edited September 22, 2006 by bigdaddyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddyk Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Well, I checked skimaps.com and that area is on their "04-05" map, so we must not have payed attention to that in the past . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 not really? I remember like two or three years ago there was a couple "powder" days at the east mountain, back when we had the house in Blakeslee....was pretty fun, tree runs were actually doable This season sucked though, I don't think there was one "powder day" or enough natural snow for a tree run. I was only up at JFBB like 4 or 5 times last season though. free domain IE tree skiing anywhere, puts JF up and above every other PA ski area in my book. On another note, has anyone ever skied the narrow run in between challenge and east mountain where an old power line used to run up? its not actually a trail, and is technically marked off, but ski patrol never bother anyone for skiing it. there needs to be plenty of natural snow before attempting though. good times When there is enough snow, jack frost is the shit risk it cliff, elevator, plenty of glades, the powerline I love that place heres to more snow this year Back on topic, i guess they were just trying to emphasize risk it on the map, since it was actually there last year. risk it is far from a conventional trail as is shown on the map thoug, it starts off with a small ~3 foot cliff, then through some wooded area, then a ~10-12 foot cliff, then a fun lower half sparsely populated with some trees in the area, definately not a wide open trail as depicted on the map. Jordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riderossi Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Back on topic, i guess they were just trying to emphasize risk it on the map, since it was actually there last year. risk it is far from a conventional trail as is shown on the map thoug, it starts off with a small ~3 foot cliff, then through some wooded area, then a ~10-12 foot cliff, then a fun lower half sparsely populated with some trees in the area, definately not a wide open trail as depicted on the map. Jordan and it's open to ride on "legally"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 and it's open to ride on "legally"? risk it? mm yeah, it is a trail. they dont blow snow on it, but enough usually blows over from floyds. before the 2nd cliff, there is usually a rope running across with a sign saying "cliff", just for them to cover their asses so that people who didnt know it was there, could go back over to floyds if they want, but yeah, its totally legit to ski it as long as risk it is open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddyk Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 and it's open to ride on "legally"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 there are so many nooks and cranies at Jack Frost that you learn from skiing there almost every weekend for the past 14 years The most fun places to ski at JF are the places where the average PA ski resort wouldnt let you ski. JF's philosophy has always seemed to be (as I have verified with various ski patrollers) as long as there is snow, ski anywhere on the property as long as it isnt specifically marked CLOSED. Its a lot more like skiing out west than anywhere else in PA. My point is: don't underestimate jack frost just because its small. Go there one day (whern there is plenty of natural snow) with someone who knows the mountain inside and out, and i bet you will have a lot more fun than you thought you could have sking in PA. The lax atmosphere makes it awesome. Jordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riderossi Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Interesting..i've never got the chance to go there, and didn't think that sort of trail existed around this area. I've always wanted montage to take out some stumps and make the area under Pheobe a trail. Guess i will try to get there this year and check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granola Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 i got to hit that little cliff on risk it last year and it was def. fun but pretty sketch cause the top right before you droped was all ice but it was prolly around 8 feet down from where i droped lots o fun and with new snow guns that should be open all year...hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddyk Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) The one nice thing that I like about JF is the "out west" feel. I can't think of any other PA resorts that allow as much off trail or tree skiing as JF. I also like little cliff huck. For those of you not familiar with that "trail," its an out-croping from a bank that they blow snow on. It provides about a 10 foot high cliff to ski down, and/ or jump up onto or off of. I just wish they would lower the price difference between the regular season pass and the VIP pass, because I don't intend on getting a pass that I have to get a ticket every day and I'm not sure if I want to waste $100 more on getting a VIP pass...I might be able to tolerate $50 more. Edited September 23, 2006 by bigdaddyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poconoceancity Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 The one nice thing that I like about JF is the "out west" feel. I can't think of any other PA resorts that allow as much off trail or tree skiing as JF. I also like little cliff huck. For those of you not familiar with that "trail," its an out-croping from a bank that they blow snow on. It provides about a 10 foot high cliff to ski down, and/ or jump up onto or off of. I just wish they would lower the price difference between the regular season pass and the VIP pass, because I don't intend on getting a pass that I have to get a ticket every day and I'm not sure if I want to waste $100 more on getting a VIP pass...I might be able to tolerate $50 more. If you are going to put in 30+ days at JF spend the extra and it will be worth it, especially if you are not one of the first people at the mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 how often is there enough snow? From the woods around mountain creek last year I can't think of any time at all I'd consider hitting up stuff like that even though mountain creek (used to) have glades so there are some areas that are cleared out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 how often is there enough snow? From the woods around mountain creek last year I can't think of any time at all I'd consider hitting up stuff like that even though mountain creek (used to) have glades so there are some areas that are cleared out. generally the glades between trails and areas within 50 ft or so of trails, are usually skiable through ~ jan and feb because enough snow blows over when they make snow for the trails, however, the really good parts of the mountain haven't been skiable in several years. The 02/03 ski season comes to mind (remember the year with the christmas day and presidents day snow storms) I remember getting stuck at jack frost till about 5:30 on christmas day 02 because rt. 940 was closed good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 JF I think has the best "natural terrain" in PA...if that exists hahaha. BC has some little tree-runs and side cuts on their other trails I was there a couple times last season....cliff huck was fun to mess around with. Risk it was cool as well...the only thing about it is that you have to make sure there is enought natural snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggles Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 haha little cliff huck's the best and yeah, i dont really wanna jinx anything by saying this, but the ski patrol guys at JF are really chill, its pretty sweet and yeah, there are tons of places to ride when theres enough snow.. like inbetween challenge and east mtn, or off of any of the trails on east. hahaha i remember like 2 years ago it had snowed a ton (believe it or not..) and we had a bunch of powder off of one of the slopes on east mtn and im not sure what exactly happened but my skis stopped and i kept going and i couldnt find my skis for the longest time.. haha.. good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I didn't think about the weather but your right it rains a lot of times at MC when the Poconos get the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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