lurker Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 (edited) Yeah they are great skis. I demoed a bunch of skis before I bought them. I didn't think I'd like them, I mean they are made by Dynastar and I hadn't heard much about them. After I rode them though, I ended up bying a pair. The '04 model is way more reflective than the '05 model. Thats actually their only difference. Edited March 27, 2005 by lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 There's a snowboard just like them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is the board made by 4frnt as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justo8484 Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 (edited) lurker what size msps were you on? cause its a wide ski and takes a little getting used to before you really realize how amazing of a ski it is. they dont like short turns, but they hold an edge and rip when you get going pretty fast. tons of pop and super stable on jumps too. its kinda a big ski to be hitting rails with, but its not terrible. i have like 3 cracks in my edges, but i hit a ton of rails. no other problems with em at all, its an awesome ski to have if we get a dump of fresh snow too. and they have 2 new models next year, the VCT (vinnie dorion pro, real wide powder twin) and the supermodel (beefed up version of the MSP, triax glass instead of biax i believe, but only offered in a 180 and 187) ps. they changed the topsheet on the TMs so they dont pressure crack as easily any more, and for next year, new graphics and stronger, thicker edges and bases Edited March 27, 2005 by Justo8484 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierboi Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 can the skis handle bumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomniac Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Is the board made by 4frnt as well? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Troublemakers are made by Dynastar, as is the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierboi Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 does the board change colors too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LineSki Posted March 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 (edited) here is next years line up for dynastars Edited March 27, 2005 by LineSki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justo8484 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 can TM's handle bumps, or 4FRNTs? TMs are awesome in the bumps, i would imagine STLs are as well. my 4FRNTs are not the greatest seeing as the waist is 92mm, but if you can ski bumps decently, its manageable, you just have to power them through a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicSkier Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 can TM's handle bumps, or 4FRNTs? TMs are awesome in the bumps, i would imagine STLs are as well. my 4FRNTs are not the greatest seeing as the waist is 92mm, but if you can ski bumps decently, its manageable, you just have to power them through a little more. 92mm? Jeez, how do you ski in PA? My Atomic's have a 62mm waist. I skiied on Gurp's Fujatives, which have a 80mm waist, and that was just excessive for around here. I assume a wider waist = more stability when landing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justo8484 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 correct atomic. going from my 1080s, which have an 80 waist, to the 4FRNTs made a huge difference. they are so much more stable going faster aslo, but thats more due to the length and stiffness. the fujatives are an 84 waist though, so an 80 waist isnt as bad as you think. i couldnt imagine skiing a ski with a 60 something waist in the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurker Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Wow, it looks like dynastar is expanding their freestyle line next year. They've got the Big Troubles, look more fat powder style, and the "Nothin' but Trouble" which look probably like Public Enemies are to Fujatives. Pretty Cool. I rode on some 160 somethings MSPS. I could probably have gotten use to them, but I never really thought they were my style. I don't like to work to have to control my skis, even if I do get a little stablity as a bonus. I can definently see how some people would like them more, but it comes down to personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justo8484 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 i think the nothin but troubles are going to be a cheaper softer flexing version of the TMs. you had a problem getting used to the 160 MSPs because of width? cause they are only 82 waist, which is about the size of any other park ski on the market right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurker Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Yeah thats what I meant, just like the Fujatives are a flexy cheaper Public Enemy, but I didn't state it very well. Haha. I'm not sure why I had a problem, they just felt huge and heavy on my feet. They are really solid thick skis, so maybe that was it. I have always skiied thinner skis, and they become a lot wider than the TMs for instance, if I remember right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipples Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Do they sell 4frnt skies in kid sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipples Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 I see skis in shops, especially nestors, that are like $700 for a pair of volkl 5stars. I think to myself..."HAHA! I paid $425 shipped for my Atomic GS:9's w/ bindings, and they're a better ski" Never pay shop prices. Ski999 got a pair of GS:11s, BRAND NEW for like $195 right? You'd pay $800 in a shop for them. You can pick up this years GS:11s for around $400 on ebay right now, brand new, since it's the end of the season. Goto a shop, you'd be paying full price. Ebay rocks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I got my Line Gettoblasters off ebay for $60 and store prize was $400.EBAY ROCKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipples Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Yeah it was started my Matt Sterbenz a pro and a coach at COC. They have a binding that they are working on, and two models of skis that are new this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'am going to COC this summer and I hope to have Matt Sterbenz as a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierboi Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 THATS mad cheap, were they good condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sno Mountain Skier Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 how big is a kid ski because i think the smallest ski they make is a 147. those are the stls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurker Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 COC will be the best time of your life. If you aren't assigned to Sterbenz, you can always still get coached by him because everything is really freeformed there. If you don't want to hang with your coach and want to go take a couple runs, or hook up with another coach instead, you can anytime you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipples Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 I ski on Armada AR3s they are 140 s and there the same hight as me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 I see skis in shops, especially nestors, that are like $700 for a pair of volkl 5stars. I think to myself..."HAHA! I paid $425 shipped for my Atomic GS:9's w/ bindings, and they're a better ski" Never pay shop prices. Ski999 got a pair of GS:11s, BRAND NEW for like $195 right? You'd pay $800 in a shop for them. You can pick up this years GS:11s for around $400 on ebay right now, brand new, since it's the end of the season. Goto a shop, you'd be paying full price. Ebay rocks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Complain a whole bunch and they will cave and toss you a pair at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 THATS mad cheap, were they good condition <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brand spanking new then, totally trashed now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicSkier Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Complain a whole bunch and they will cave and toss you a pair at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipples Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 If you never been on ebay go and you won't believe the prizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 If you never been on ebay go and you won't believe the prizes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Weeee, The prizes are awesome. I used 500 tokens to get a spongebob square pants plush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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