rgrwilco Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 read the blue mountain forum, than go to blue last season and ride their park. then come back here and post about how bad of an idea buses are in a terrain park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbleslc Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Just an FYI...we offered a 40 foot transit bus to BC so they could build a one of a kind rail, but they did not want it....and we are giving it away...I still have not figured out why they did not take it....they could park it in the parking lot until they figured out what to do....they could even cut it in half....oh well Bear Creek is not trying to turn into a junkyard like blue mountiain is trying to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 In all respect Bear Mountain's junkyard terrain park did look kinda fun. Although you probably need a damn tetanus shot after day of riding. Besides Bear Creek already has a subaru in their park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAZY-Emuntz Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 yeah i think the bus turned out a bad idea for blue..... im not sure it worked out to well with anyone even riding it. I personally think it was more a publicity stunt than actually trying to aid the terrain park goers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 (edited) Personally I think arranging the park correctly and setting things up properly is more important than what crazy new rails you can make. Last year Bear had a ton of great stuff that wound up being sub-par a lot of the time due to poor placement. They set up lines where you bottlenecked into one hit that would become rutted after heavy riding. Place hits of equal difficulty next to each other in sets of two or three. If you can't handle either hit then just ride by or go to a different park. Putting "self-esteem booster" rails in the "expert" park all by itself is a bad idea since it'll get tracked real quick since absolutely everyone who rides through the park will hit that specific rail. Besides where would they put a freakin bus? btw: I am not ragging on Bear's park and I dont want it to seem like I have beef with those involved in the park. Edited November 10, 2007 by Rowsdower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeer_tomas Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 A good size bus would be kinda sweet if it was just parked out of the way on the hill as like a warming/chill take a break hut since the yurts cant be used by peoples. maybe set up a lil tv to plug in a cam to look at the days filming or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saurus Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 The only thing bear needs is lights. They are overstocked with rails and boxes. They should move on and focus on other stuff now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbgskibum247 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Too many boxes and rails? I dont think thats possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 ^^ true true i!! they need to change around the park a little more often though!! and extra lighting couldn't hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixilplix Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Too many boxes and rails? I dont think thats possible... I think it's very possible.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 that ledge lookes like it will eat ur board!! bear looks liek they have some time to blow at the end of the week... do u think they will??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 bear looks liek they have some time to blow at the end of the week... do u think they will??? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_rider Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I feel like bringing in a bus or something like that is just like someone said farther up the page a publicity stunt bear has their mtn. lab staircase which I would say is a bigger,better and more notable feature in a park then a bus or a car although bear already has that subaru rail (which I don't really think is all that good). I totally agree with diamond lighting is something they should be working on for improving the parks for season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 looking at the 15 day there is 3 days of good blowing and then 2 warm days then 5 days of good blowing after!! with how bear is talking about there new snowmaking system i'm think they can have 75% of the mt open with a good base is bear considering blowing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTDSNOWBOARDER Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 your a fool to think that bear with have 75% of there mtn open in 5 days of blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAZY-Emuntz Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I think mark said in another forum or maybe this one that they were looking at not even blowing until november 20th or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) i think they were saying they need a 48 hr of a wetbulb of 28 or under to be fully open Edited November 12, 2007 by Mini Zep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saurus Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 i think they were saying they need a 48 hr of a wetbulb of 28 or under to be fully open hahah yeah def. not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) Maybe to get enough terrain covered for an opening but it takes a good week of blowing straight through to open the whole mountain with decent conditions. Looking at weather conditions don't look to terrible, the warming trend that was supposed to jack temperatures into the 60s is down about 10 degrees which is very nice despite teh rain. However the latest gfs models are showing the same western pacific flow dominating just like last year. Which we all know is a bad thing. However said pacific flow is weaker and allowing more cold air to leak in. We can only hope that the weaker la nina pattern will deteriorate faster rather than persist into december. There needs to be a new thread for this too. Edited November 12, 2007 by Rowsdower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 there better not be a la nina! if there was an la nina y would it already be down in the 20's at night and y would boulder have the earliest opening ever?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 look how much boulder blew in 2 or 3 nights... bear has a better blowing system(i think) they could open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Everybody knows that bear will never blow snow even when they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 ^^ shhhhhh... can't we be optimistic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_rider Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Well here's the thing about boulder and bears snow systems, boulder operates with a compressed air and water system (look at their guns you'll see 2 hoses going into them, one for air and one for water) now that means their air temp is a moot point I believe they can with their compressed air system make snow in up to 45 degree weather because they don't have to worry about a wet bulb temperature; at least that's what I understood from talking to some people about it and trying to do some research on home made systems as well. Now bear creek has a different snow system that pumps the water to the guns and then uses a pump on the gun to pull in the air needed for propelling the water (which from what I can understand would make them rely more on a colder temperature to blow, so it's not that they have a better system just different. Please correct me if I'm wrong about anything I said about BB' and BC' snow systems because I'd love to understand anything I'm wrong about on this. As for not blowing snow when they can, it's not worth it to try and make snow in a two day window when you've got 3 or 4 days following where you can't blow and it would just melt while you're hoping you'll get another window; because it all comes down to wasting that water that you've been collecting to blow to really open and that power you've been allotted to use to blow, they make a calculated decision about when to blow they just don't want to blow all their resources and be S.O.L. when they really need them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdorsey Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 to the best of my knowledge both bear and boulder use smi fan guns as their primary snowmakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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