Rowsdower Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 What's with the ridiculous weather for the next two weeks? Damn storms are tracking straight across they're not riding up the coast. Stupid jet stream..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 What's with the ridiculous weather for the next two weeks? Damn storms are tracking straight across they're not riding up the coast. Stupid jet stream..... its been like that for the past coule years hasnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 its been like that for the past coule years hasnt it You mean its been like that forever in PA?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 just got home from bear and they blew tons of snow today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 You mean its been like that forever in PA?? Yo sorry, i meant "couple" of years... and ya i did mean in PA.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibHonk Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 no hes saying that PA has ALWAYS been like that. not just the past couple of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 looks like they didnt have to stop early... they still had them on a few minutes ago... i think now there turning them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 no hes saying that PA has ALWAYS been like that. not just the past couple of years Gosh i'm stupid... But Like three years ago we had a couple snowfalls that were like 1 to 2 feet snowfall.. its just the last two years that were SUPER warm during early january, and last year only like 5 inches all year.... ....or maybe its just were I live But i guess PA does have crappy winter weather... looks like they didnt have to stop early... they still had them on a few minutes ago... i think now there turning them off I thought they said they were trying to keep them on till this afternoon? guess the weather got warming then they'd expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 PA weather is very fickle, and Bear Creek is in the worst spot for it down in Southeast PA. Every now and then we get a very good winter, but snow is more the exception than the rule most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarder1x9 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 is there going to be anything else added to the parks by thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersux Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I hope snow is ok with the rain comming tomarrow. I HATE RAIN! The weather is crazy! Even though the park is sick with my gf learning to ride it would be nice to have some beginer trails open... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 is there going to be anything else added to the parks by thursday I doubt it, because there calling for rain tonight and tomorrow... I would only expect new park features by this weekend.. when they can add some more snow.. PA weather is very fickle, and Bear Creek is in the worst spot for it down in Southeast PA. Every now and then we get a very good winter, but snow is more the exception than the rule most of the time. Ya i know, but i love there tarrain park, and its the closest resort to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideBRTN09 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 are the new trails still supposed to be opened up this weekend with the weather coming? just wondering how much of a base they have down on the other side and if it can stand the rain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 umm, by the looks of it they had a pretty good base.. but i wouldn't expect many of the other trails open till next weekend... if were lucky one or two of the trails will be open by sunday or monday.. but i wouldn't expect anything till next weekend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarddude Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 i think it all depends on how much rain we get but i doubt they will have enought snow to open them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC-Mark Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 This rain is a killer! We had plenty of snow stockpiled to open 100% of our trails on Friday assuming the rain did a normal amount of damage. This rain is exceptionally warm and we have had nearly 1" as of 1:30PM. We still have big piles out there but they are going faster than we could have imagined. Right now, Thursday night snowmaking seems out of the question with rain in the forecast from 10am Thursday to 3am Friday. We are hoping the Friday/Saturday forecast does not change and plan on making snow for as much of that time period as possible. We also anticipate reopening Friday morning but please check back for updates. In the meantime, I will try to keep myself from jumping off a lift tower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method9455 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 This rain is a killer! We had plenty of snow stockpiled to open 100% of our trails on Friday assuming the rain did a normal amount of damage. This rain is exceptionally warm and we have had nearly 1" as of 1:30PM. We still have big piles out there but they are going faster than we could have imagined. Right now, Thursday night snowmaking seems out of the question with rain in the forecast from 10am Thursday to 3am Friday. We are hoping the Friday/Saturday forecast does not change and plan on making snow for as much of that time period as possible. We also anticipate reopening Friday morning but please check back for updates. In the meantime, I will try to keep myself from jumping off a lift tower! Thats awful. Mark I'm not looking for the number, but is it possible for you to quantify how much snow is lost after a storm in volume or dollar amount? I always wonder at what point is it cost effective to do something to actively protect the snow from rain events. I was thinking something along the lines of a baseball tarp unrolled over whales prior to them being groomed out during this time of year. It would be a lot of labor costs, but at some point it might break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schif Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I've always wondered the same thing Method, thanks for asking that good question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I feel ya mark... well i dont think completely.. but man. lets hope this works out! the weather keeps pulling a fast one. :-( and ya i think we should just make a huge dome over bear creek and have it open all year!. haaha ya right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ket19 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I feel ya mark... well i dont think completely.. but man. lets hope this works out! the weather keeps pulling a fast one. :-( and ya i think we should just make a huge dome over bear creek and have it open all year!. haaha ya right! i'm liking this dome idea. bake sale? i'll make brownies. don't worry mark, we love you and BC no matter what stupid mess the weather pulls. hang in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC-Mark Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 That is a good question. Each 24 hour session costs us about $16,000 in labor and electric. That figure does not account for any other equipment costs, fuel for the snowmobiles and cats or depreciation on capital purchases. Over a 24 hour period with a 24F wetbulb, we can make approximately 57 acre feet of snow (enough snow to cover 57 acres with 1 foot of snow). I would estimate that we will lose approximately 60 to 80 acre feet of snow from today's rain. This is on the high end for winter rain events due to the relatively high temperature of the rain and the air and the extended duration of the event. Using 80 acre feet as our loss estimate, we will lose $22,456 in snow today. This does not account for lost revenue as a result of the closure which could be considerable. I have not investigated the cost of tarps to cover a trail or piles, but tarps to cover the magic carpets in the summer, 700' x 5', ran about $3,000 each. Our average trail width here is nearly 300' so you can see that this could add up pretty quick. The other issue would be storage and the logistics of deploying the tarps in a timely manner. I am definitly open to suggestions if anyone has ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schif Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thanks Mark. It sucks to see you guys lose snow/money, but its something very interesting to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 i'm liking this dome idea. bake sale? i'll make brownies. "I make a mean toadstool sandwhich!" I'm in! And OMW mark! i'm so sad about the loss of money, even more then i'm sad about how i can't shred but like ket said, we'll stick with ya! i'll keep buying those season passes to make sure you keep Making money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2wwwkid Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 my suggestion is that bear creek buys a giant dome to put over it.... Snow blowers could hang from the cieling and air conditioners could keep it cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardin_nerd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 my suggestion is that bear creek buys a giant dome to put over it.... Snow blowers could hang from the cieling and air conditioners could keep it cool. Demn u, you stole my idea naw just playin son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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