RidgeRacer

This is why I'm not a fan of Monroe or Even Pike Co. I love the signs along I-80 that read "This development is a Commuter's Dream". How could a commuter's "dream" be to have their job 2 STATES over? No offense if anyone here does that commute but It's amazing to me that people actually think it's feasible to commute 100+ miles each way every day. Unfortunately these Counties had no idea what they wanted to be (suburb, vacation getaway etc). The builders are going crazy and now they have a mess to deal with in terms of sprawl, roads, foreclosures, crime. etc. Have fun with all that.

But its not the truth. It's a ridiculous statement especially coming from you as I appreciate most of your posts. I know, maybe we can stack 8 big boulders on top of 1 jack frost and that'll compare to Jackson Hole! You're supposed to compare mountains to molehills, not molehills to molehills. If you think Elk's unbelievably gnarly terrain is worth the extra 250 over Jack Frost then you must spend your evenings diving into a money pit like scrooge mcduck.

There are some gated communities in that area that are having problems with crime etc..This could be in one of those. There's a reason it's that low.

sigh.

40's in the Poconos last night.

What Dan said. To each his own. I like JF because of the trees, east etc. Doug likes fast lifts. Who cares. This is Pennsylvania people. We take what we can get.

Yeah...ski magazine rankings don't really carry much weight on ski message boards.

By wasted potential, I wasn't referring to them spending a load of money on dumb shit like condos or what have you. I was talking about simply clearing out some gladed terrain and allowing tree skiing because (even though you call it flat) it would be that much better if they did. Every year its the same thing with them..."new for this year, we planted X number of trees". It's old IMO.

elk take notes. These are upgrades.

Meh. Such wasted potential.

I just realized that the one resort says "Ski Cooper" and not "Ski Copper". LMAO. I was wondering why those rates were so low. Really the only 2 areas on this card that interest me are A Basin and Loveland and this thing actually offers some pretty good deals - especially Loveland. It may be worth picking up if we do a front range trip.

Found this online. Doesn't seem like a bad deal, especially if you're visiting and skiing mid-week. Of course the resorts are limited, but if you're planning on visiting one or more of these resorts, this may be worth picking up. http://www.shopcolor...ard_2011_12.htm The 2011-12 Gems Card gets you discounts at all nine Colorado Gems ski areas. Participating resorts include Arapahoe Basin, Echo Mountain, Eldora, Loveland, Monarch Mountain, Powderhorn, Ski Cooper, SolVista, and Sunlight. Check out the list of deals and discounts for the 2011-12 Gems Card below. 2011-12 Colorado Gems Card Arapahoe Basin [*]2 for 1 adult lift ticket Mon-Fri, valid once 11/1/11

30 minutes maybe. I remember driving past northstar on the way to Squaw.

Cool. Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to using it this winter.

There's hope. Blue ridge sold the land a week or so ago. http://m.tnonline.com/2011/jul/22/big-boulder-jack-frost-sales-are-approved

They didn't blow too much after January last year (probably because it stayed cold for a while) and Risk It was still skiable for a good portion on the season (not as much as other tree runs). Who knows. They may even make an extra effort this year to get a little extra snow in there since they're officially calling it an improvement for 11-12. Still one of the greatest PA ski days ever for me. That and a few days before when we were skiing during that storm.

A cleared out Risk it could rival the Elevator for the best run at Jack Frost.

The chances of getting a core shot on East Mt. just decreased dramatically. Looks like Frost is cleaning out the tree's in and around "Risk It". (JFSkiDan you spoke and they listened). http://jfbb.com/multiblog/2011/07/25/risk-it-glade "This is a fall project but sure to be a good one... "Risk It" on East Mountain is going to be cleared out for some more great glade skiing and riding!" Looking forward to this.

True. At least it has us talking about skiing in July, during a heat wave no less. In looking at this again for laughs. Some of it is truly priceless. According to the survey, the #3 "favorite destination village" in the East is The Killington Access road. How does a busy road with bars, restaurants and hotels constitute a "village" and how the hell does it rank higher than actual ski towns like Stowe (ranked 5th) and Lake Placid (7th)? Bear Creek 4 spots ahead of Elk?

Wow. Who are these people surveying?

further proof that I'm living in the wrong state.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/on-sale/9fc6/ A flux capacitor is pretty aquirable actually, expensive though.

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Elks a great place to ski no doubt and your right, it would be 2x as good if you didnt have to look over your shoulder should you make a turn off piste. Regarding a petition, I don't think the current owners will ever allow it. I remember a thread a few years back that included an email response from the owner and he was pretty serious about never opening up the trees. I just chuckle at the like skiing in VT slogan. I can't name an area in VT (or anywhere north of Elk for that matter) that has a sign telling you that if you ski in the woods or if you ski fast you'll have your ticket pulled. I'm not dissing Elk. It does offer a true mountain feel and the snow is usually great, as is the terrain. But it could be so much more. IDK Maybe I'm spoiled because I spend 80% of the time in the trees at Jack Frost and think it would be weird not being able to explore the hill. I mean isn't that part of what makes skiing fun?

When I saw the title of this thread I got excited thinking elk may actually try to live up to its "like skiing in VT" slogan and finally allow tree skiing. Of course I was wrong. No surprise.