stever2003

I haven't been to Blue or Camelback in a few years. How are lift lines midday on a Sunday at either? Which is better on a day like today? (Skiing with wife and 10yo, accessing mor of the beginner terrain). Thanks

I have a pass for a lesson at Stratton. It expires on 12/31/10 (sorry for waiting so long to post it here). I'm not making it up there to use it. If anyone wants it, PM me. Free to anyone willing to pick it up (I live in Lower Bucks County at the moment).

Has anybody been to Elk recently? What can I expect for crowds if I head up tomorrow?

I might go to Elk instead. Thanks.

Has anybody been at Blue during the day this week? I'm thinking of heading to Blue tomorrow, I'm wondering how crowded it has been.

Anybody have pics of the new "glades" I see on Blue's trail map?

I should be there sunday. Might try pond skimming.

How is this stealing? It sounds like the employees are provided with lift ticket vouchers as part of their compensation package. If it belongs to you, what's wrong with selling it at market price? If someone buys your pass, Blue Mt. gets the same result as if you gave the pass to your friend: another skier on the mountain who didn't pay for the mountain's services. Am I missing something here? It's not like you're going into the managers office and stealing a stack of free passes.

I PMed you, Barb. I'm interested in the freebies. If they're still available, awesome! If not, thanks for the offer.

Snow quality is great...usually much better than Blue. Much less ice and hardpack. Great terrain as well. Elk's lifts may be slow, but the high speed lifts at Blue don't matter when there are 1000 people in line and you have to wait 15-20 minutes to get on a chair. Elk is usually not too crowded (not nearly as crowded as Blue on a weekend). I've done 28 runs on a weekend day at Elk...couldn't imagine doing that with Blue's weekend crowds. I love Blue, but Elk is much better. If you're going up for a full day of skiing, you're best bet is to drive the extra 80 minutes to Elk.

If a pay locker is full but is not paid for and locked, i have no problem emptying that locker and paying to use it to secure my own belongings in there.

JF is usually in great shape. I'll be there on Saturday.

How about more advertising in the Philly area? I don't ever hear about Sno down here. I don't think anybody knows about it (except for a few people who knew it as Montage before, but those are few and far between). More customers = more $$$ = more improvements elsewhere on the mountain.

anyone have a pic? where is it located?

hmmm...apparently he's not. must have been someone else i was thinking of.

wait, what? i thought Robert2 was like 14 years old.

Robert, I love Blue, but I plan on teaching my girlfriend to ski at JFBB. check out this deal, I think it's pretty good: http://www.jfbb.com/plan/deals-and-packages/discovery-card. I already checked with them, the pass is good for the whole mountain.

you really have to pay for parking?

How'd they manage to pack the powder in the trees?

260 people with passes doesn't compare with the 5000-10000 people who come to a place like camelback or blue mountain or jfbb on a busy weekend. people down here in philly don't even know about Sno Mountain. If they are going to drive past Blue, CB, or JFBB, they're headed to Elk. If there were sufficient advertising here in Philly, reactions would be exactly as librider put it. Hey, here's a new place, maybe I'll check it out. I wonder how much it costs, how big it is, what the trail map looks like, how to get there. Hmm, where might I find this information...THE WEBSITE. If I never heard of a place and have to go out on a limb to try it out instead of the places I am familiar with, a website that looks like it was made by a 10 year old would probably turn me away. Why would I want to visit a place that doesn't take their business seriously enough to spend $10,000 on a good website? I'm not saying that we should want 5000-10000 people to visit Sno Mountain on any day. However, we certainly want their business to prosper. I'm not impressed by 260 passes...assuming they all paid full price, I don't think the $176k of revenue those passes brought in is paying for the millions that have been spent on that place in the last few years, let alone a few months of operations costs. Sno needs a steady stream of customers, and they'll need to draw them by every means necessary. I don't understand how, in this day and age, anybody could make a valid argument that having a website would not benefit a business. For a business like Sno, a website is key to providing information to the public.

it opened already right? was anybody there?

Their website has always looked like something I could put together by typing my own HTML code when i was 11 years old...and no, that's not a good thing.

i found this on youtube one time

I'm all for a small fee for park passes - I'm sure the people who really care about the park wouldn't mind paying something like $5-10/day or $50/year to ride the park if this fee helped kept those who don't respect the rules out of there. If I was in your shoes and lived in the park, I know I would. The problem here is, after years of skiing at Blue Mt, I already count all of the trails as part of the value of paying for a lift ticket (or season pass in most of your cases). I wouldn't be thrilled about paying extra for the park if the lift ticket price remained the same, or if they didn't add some additional trails to the mountain. Essentially, if the parks became exclusive for those who paid the fee while the rest of the mountain was available to me at the same (or higher) price than I paid the year before for the whole mountain, I'd be paying the same or more money for less mountain. There's gotta be some offset there for this method to satisfy all parties.

No ads down here in Philly. They're probably out of money. And available credit.