Glenn Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Its funny, whenever something new comes around, until people understand it this kind of stuff goes on. 30876[/snapback] New ideas, products, services etc come out all the time. LOTS of them aren't as good as the creators make them out to be. I'm not going to try to pretend like I know what I'm talking about when it comes to skiing, but as a general rule, the burden of proof is on you to show quality of product. If someone is going to spend money, time, and habit to a ski technique they want to be sure of the product they are purchasing. The people who jump on everything new are the people who get burned. YOU have to build a reputation, YOU have to show that your technique can out perform existing techinques, YOU have dispell arguments that the technique will work on steep pitches. If YOU can't perform on a FIS level with your technique you need someone else who can, to start to convince the general public. Even then you should have SEVERAL FIS hot shots to really prove your point. In my opinion you need a solid 15 days to START to get comfortable with new techniques on a snowboard. I assume it would be similar with your waist steering and skiing. To me 15 days is HUGE in terms of lost riding time for me anyways. Thats almost a 1/4 of the days I rode this past season. Most on the east ski far less. All this to say, I would be pretty pissed if I signed up for a program that did little or nothing for me, and I needed to spend the remainder of the season, or following season UN-learning what was taught. Again, I could care less whether your technique is the wave of the future or a total sham. Just simply saying "trust me", isn't enough. I apologize if you have already addressed all these points, I am not as "read up" on the topic as I probobly should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) Anyway, I really don't want to make this go any bigger. Edited August 17, 2005 by Papasteeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimom Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 When we're talking about people that race NASTAR, it's not exactly the cream of the crop, ... Hey, watch it buddy. Speak for yourself. We don't want two battles going on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Hey, watch it buddy. Speak for yourself. We don't want two battles going on here... 30903[/snapback] I agreee. USSA racers are afraid they might get beat by a recreational NASTAR racer, thats why the crop hides in the cream.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicSkier Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Hey, watch it buddy. Speak for yourself. We don't want two battles going on here... 30903[/snapback] Well, besides you Sib is the one always saying someone with low USSA/FIS points would never be caught dead doing NASTAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimom Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Well, besides you Sib is the one always saying someone with low USSA/FIS points would never be caught dead doing NASTAR 30907[/snapback] Her daughter streamlined into USSA, and is looking only forward, which is fine, because she's terrific. Her friends are USSA and fis racers. Those of us who started in NASTAR make NASTAR friends and are likely to enjoy the social aspect of it even if some also now do USSA and fis. Also, NASTAR is a good way to get timed runs to test new strategies, techniques or compare equipment. Siblet probably gets timed practice runs. Most of us mere mortals in the banana belt can't get the times without NASTAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmark Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 that and i think nastar is one of the few places if not the only place an aspering snowboard racer can go to see how he/she compairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibhusky Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) When skidude starts racing FIS, let me know if he still does NASTAR. Which reminds me -- when are you putting skidude in a ski academy? Edited August 17, 2005 by sibhusky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasteeze Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Those of us who started in NASTAR make NASTAR friends and are likely to enjoy the social aspect of it even if some also now do USSA and fis. Also, NASTAR is a good way to get timed runs to test new strategies, techniques or compare equipment. Most of us mere mortals in the banana belt can't get the times without NASTAR. 30911[/snapback] Exactly, I believe in giving credit where credit is due. We would not know what we know today without Nastar. I feel strongly that I have a much wider view/vision of racing that I would have not gotten if he was involved in a singular program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimom Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 When skidude starts racing FIS, let me know if he still does NASTAR. Which reminds me -- when are you putting skidude in a ski academy? 30952[/snapback] My bet is that he still does NASTAR. He can do timed evening race practices with NASTAR, with a one hour commute, and see his longstanding friends at the same time. The 'dude has been the NASTAR pacesetter on occasion. When he isn't, he aims to beat the pacesetter or set the fastest pace of the night. There are enough fast racers that it keeps him challenged. But, I like the sound of the 'dude at FIS races... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Happy bday Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude4bides Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 please no fighting. even tho its very entertaining and all this isnt what i believe the board was used for correct admins?Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justo8484 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Loli wonder what tretiak is up to these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast21602 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 i wonder what tretiak is up to these days Cars and I think he has a youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Wow. Bet gulp has kids too. And insomniac is prob at a low level job on food stamps- or doing very successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Wow. Bet gulp has kids too. And insomniac is prob at a low level job on food stamps- or doing very successful. Stevo is successful. Owns a home. Works a ton as an electrician. i wonder what tretiak is up to these days No idea I gave him a ride to blue once in December of 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justo8484 Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Wow. Bet gulp has kids too. And insomniac is prob at a low level job on food stamps- or doing very successful. wasnt it gurp? I almost bought a mtb frame off of him last spring I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Is it true that food stamps are based on household income and not personal income? Yes and also money in the bank. If you have over like $2500 in the bank you don't qualify and yes you can buy red bull with food stamps as the energy drink lobbyists argued that it was food. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrilledSteezeSandwich Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Holy shit I don't come close to qualifying. This is fucking bullshit. Lower middle class getting screwed again. I know we've been through this. Are you having trouble affording food or are you just cheap?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadows Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Tell them youre an alchy. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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