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EPIC day at Hunter w/ @GSSucks and @Justo8484.  @GSSucks caught up with me somewhere on 87 and arrived at Hunter ~6:50am.  Geared up started our skin right as the sun was coming up.  This was my first

Heading to Crested Butte tomorrow. My gear pile is nice and manageable. Usually I am packing for multiple sports but this time just focusing on skiing. Debated on bringing my touring setup but backcou

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2 hours ago, saltyant said:

I don't wanna put words in anyone's mouths anymore, but in my personal opinion, I believe Ben told me a few times that he's quite content skiing at Blue and isn't really interested in skiing elsewhere.

Salty there you go putting words in other people’s mouths. Unreal @Ride Delaware ? And @ridge

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2 hours ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

I would expect if Blue did join Epic or Ikon it would likely do the following:

 

You should really stop fooling yourself into thinking this is going to happen.  Its not.  We know this is what you want, but the chances of that happening are about the same as Sallyant posting content worth reading (see above)

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1 minute ago, JFskiDan said:

You should really stop fooling yourself into thinking this is going to happen.  Its not.  We know this is what you want, but the chances of that happening are about the same as Sallyant posting content worth reading (see above)

Not sure if this is a typo or not, but it is a name that should stick. Thank you for this gift. 

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25 minutes ago, JFskiDan said:

You should really stop fooling yourself into thinking this is going to happen.  Its not.  We know this is what you want, but the chances of that happening are about the same as Sallyant posting content worth reading (see above)

Personally my first choice development would be for Ikon to add Camelback. I prefer CB to Blue (easier to avoid lift lines and more easily accessible from highway in snowy conditions) and would like to switch from Epic to Ikon to have a different selection of mountains open to me starting in a month or so. And more likely to happen as CB offered a deal on Ikon passes to their passholders last year.

 

But I will see what the options are and make my call. Barring any new PA resorts joining Ikon or Epic, I think ORDA looks most appealing. 

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5 hours ago, Ski2Live Live2Ski said:

I would expect if Blue did join Epic or Ikon it would likely do the following:

1. Increase crowds at Blue

2. Increase pass prices (I expect them to go up sharply anyway given increase in day prices)

2. End VIP lines - VIP is one of very few resorts may have them and mountains on Epic pass (don't know about Ikon) tend to homogenize operations. 

So if I were a Blue pass holder I would only be rooting for it if I hoped to do a substantial part of my skiing at places other than Blue.

For myself I would be likely to next year get whichever of Ikon or Epic added Blue - as I prefer Blue to the current PA options on Epic (or the lack of any on Ikon).

Blue doesn't choose to "join" Epic. Sure, there are a few resorts that have agreements with Vail for a few days on an Epic pass, but Blue is not gonna be one of them. Zero incentive on either end for that sort of arrangement here. The only way Blue becomes part of epic pass is if they get bought. It didn't pan out last time there was hype around it; I highly doubt it's gonna happen for next season, especially after such a turbulent year where epic resorts, who make a ton of their money on the retail/hospitality portion of their business, is probably already stretched thin and has seemingly cut quality and services at some of their less prestigious properties to save money.

I guess Ikon is a possibility, as they don't have the same "owned by Vail Resorts" operating structure, since Alterra doesn't actually own all the resorts on the Ikon pass. I see the business sense there for Alterra in being able to attract away some of the crowd that jumped ship from local passes to Epic passes for this season and are now pissed off with how things have been going at jfbb. I'm not sure how much it helps blue though. If there was a blue + ikon add on, that'd be pretty sweet and check the boxes for me, since I do like the northeast options it provides a bit better than epic (stowe aside). Just not sure how much it would really benefit blue. Doesn't seem like they've really been hurting for business the past few seasons, honestly.

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